Native American and Children of Israel Fiery Flying Serpents

[_Philo Sofee]

Lemmie, I know sometimes researching and sharing information seems like a thankless task. But it's not. Your information and Analysis and ability to cut through the crap to get to the essential information is absolutely astonishing. I for one greatly appreciate all your efforts to keep us on the right track with actual good knowledge, logical thinking, and excellent analysis of the evidence. Keep it up I am deeply impressed. This has been an absolutely wonderful useful thread!.

[_Lemmie]

Lemmie, I know sometimes researching and sharing information seems like a thankless task. But it's not. Your information and Analysis and ability to cut through the crap to get to the essential information is absolutely astonishing. I for one greatly appreciate all your efforts to keep us on the right track with actual good knowledge, logical thinking, and excellent analysis of the evidence. Keep it up I am deeply impressed. This has been an absolutely wonderful useful thread!.

Thanks Philo, that's very kind of you to say!!

I like thinking through the research but Tapirrider is the true expert here. He/she knows this stuff cold; I've learned a tremendous amount from them across bomgeography's threads. Having them post here is like having a grindael for Book of Mormon claims. Combine that with DrW on carbon dating and its better than taking a class. More fun, too.

[_Philo Sofee]

Lemmie, I know sometimes researching and sharing information seems like a thankless task. But it's not. Your information and Analysis and ability to cut through the crap to get to the essential information is absolutely astonishing. I for one greatly appreciate all your efforts to keep us on the right track with actual good knowledge, logical thinking, and excellent analysis of the evidence. Keep it up I am deeply impressed. This has been an absolutely wonderful useful thread!.

Thanks Philo, that's very kind of you to say!!

I like thinking through the research but Tapirrider is the true expert here. He/she knows this stuff cold; I've learned a tremendous amount from them across bomgeography's threads. Having them post here is like having a grindael for Book of Mormon claims. Combine that with DrW on carbon dating and its better than taking a class. More fun, too.

Yes to everything you said. I agree with you about Tapirrider as well as Grindael and Dr.W. Yes this is a phenomenal place to learn real knowledge in. I love reading all you people's posts.

[_moksha]

MesoAmerican Tales



"Alduin's wings, they did darken the sky.
His roar fury's fire and his scales sharpened scythes.
Men ran and they cowered and they fought and they died.
They burned and they bled as they issued their cries.

Dovahkiin Dovahkiin naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin fah hin kogaan mu draal."
-- Lost Book of Zelph, Snorri Sigurdsson Library, Tolkein Collection, pg. 116

[_bomgeography]

MesoAmerican Tales



"Alduin's wings, they did darken the sky.
His roar fury's fire and his scales sharpened scythes.
Men ran and they cowered and they fought and they died.
They burned and they bled as they issued their cries.

Dovahkiin Dovahkiin naal ok zin los vahriin
Wah dein vokul mahfaeraak ahst vaal
Ahrk fin norok paal graan fod nust hon zindro zaan
Dovahkiin fah hin kogaan mu draal."
-- Lost Book of Zelph, Snorri Sigurdsson Library, Tolkein Collection, pg. 116

Tolkien 20 century fictional writing about dragons is entertaining. But there is nothing fictional about Mississippian culture artifacts and Native American traditional accounts that match the Old Testament

[_Lemmie]

Tolkien 20 century fictional writing about dragons is entertaining. But there is nothing fictional about Mississippian culture artifacts and Native American traditional accounts that match the Old Testament

Virtually every historian, archaeologist, and anthropologist specializing in this area disagrees with you.

As scholars committed to increasing public understanding of Native American history and archaeology, we want to make it clear that...[I]n our opinion, there is no compelling archaeological or genetic evidence for a migration from the Middle East to North America a few thousand years ago, nor is there any credible scientific evidence that Old World civilizations were involved in developing Native American cultures in pre-Columbian times.
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[_bomgeography]

Tolkien 20 century fictional writing about dragons is entertaining. But there is nothing fictional about Mississippian culture artifacts and Native American traditional accounts that match the Old Testament

Virtually every historian, archaeologist, and anthropologist specializing in this area disagrees with you.

As scholars committed to increasing public understanding of Native American history and archaeology, we want to make it clear that...[I]n our opinion, there is no compelling archaeological or genetic evidence for a migration from the Middle East to North America a few thousand years ago, nor is there any credible scientific evidence that Old World civilizations were involved in developing Native American cultures in pre-Columbian times.
viewtopic.php?p=1025026#p1025026

My point is that the Mississippians believed in flying serpents. Let me know if archeologist believe those are not flying serpent depictions

"Those who know say the Uktena is a great snake…with horns on its head, and a bright blazing crest like a diamond on its forehead, and scales glowing like sparks of fire." (Mooney, James. Myths of the Cherokee. US Bureau of American Ethnology, 1897-8 Annual Report, 1902)
Native American tradition
"Every seven days he feeds it with the blood of small game, rubbing the blood all over the crystal as soon as the animal has been killed. Twice a year it must have the blood of a deer or other large animal. Should he forget to feed it at the proper time it would come out of its cave in a shape of fire and fly through the air to slake its thirst with the lifeblood of the conjurer or some one of his people."

[_tapirrider]

My point is that the Mississippians believed in flying serpents. Let me know if archeologist believe those are not flying serpent depictions

David, there is a problem. The flying serpent in the Americas dates before the Book of Mormon. See The Olmec World: Ritual and Rulership by Michael D. Coe, 1995, Page 84 for more on the pre-Book of Mormon Olmec feathered serpent.

[Guest]

The middle east fiery flying serpents match up with native American middle east dna.

Wait, WHAT?? The DNA from venomous flying snakes matches the DNA of both Native Americans and Semitic peoples??

In what possible way?

What I meant by this is the fiery flying serpent record in the Old Testament is located in the Middle East. Native Americans have Middle East dna. In that way Native Americans show scientific genetic link to the Middle East. Culturally through fiery flying serpents there is cultural link native Americans have to the Middle east

[_bomgeography]

My point is that the Mississippians believed in flying serpents. Let me know if archeologist believe those are not flying serpent depictions

David, there is a problem. The flying serpent in the Americas dates before the Book of Mormon. See The Olmec World: Ritual and Rulership by Michael D. Coe, 1995, Page 84 for more on the pre-Book of Mormon Olmec feathered serpent.

Sorry tapir but you are looking in meso America not North America. These depictions of flying serpents are from the Mississippian culture. Not from Olmec culture.
The Mississippian culture dates after the Book of Mormon