Answers to Creationist Attacks on C-14 Dating

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Re: Answers to Creationist Attacks on C-14 Dating

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Common ancestor or common Creator. That is the question!
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bomgeography wrote:A localized flood is a completely viable scenario

Really?

So the flood was a temporal baptism of the earth not by immersion but by Catholic-style sprinkling?

Also, when God put the rainbow in the sky, what exactly was He promising Noah that He would never do again? And did He keep His promise?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
bomgeography wrote:A localized flood is a completely viable scenario

Really?

So the flood was a temporal baptism of the earth not by immersion but by Catholic-style sprinkling?

Also, when God put the rainbow in the sky, what exactly was He promising Noah that He would never do again? And did He keep His promise?


We all know that there has NEVER been a localized flood, ever again. And maybe God just didn't want to reveal the true order of baptism yet, didn't want to take the glory from Christ on that one.
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LittleNipper wrote:Common ancestor or common Creator. That is the question!


First of all, this is what you're promoting:

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So much for your creator argument.

Common ancestor, absolutely. Old spherical Earth. Stars as suns. Planets as worlds. You have a lot of catching up to do, Nipper. About 2,000 years' worth.

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While you go on repeating and reinterpreting the same old scrolls, other humans have begun exploring the universe. Guess where the future lies?

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Maksutov wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Common ancestor or common Creator. That is the question!


First of all, this is what you're promoting:

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So much for your creator argument.

Common ancestor, absolutely. Old spherical Earth. Stars as suns. Planets as worlds. You have a lot of catching up to do, Nipper. About 2,000 years' worth.

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While you go on repeating and reinterpreting the same old scrolls, other humans have begun exploring the universe. Guess where the future lies?

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Jesus cleared up the Hebrew/Jewish fallacies and wrong interpretations of the Bible. You must remember that not only did the Jews compound and add traditions to God's Word, they also practiced paganism time and again.

The very fact that the Bible clearly states that the circle of the earth hangs on nothing introduces space and isn't a world sitting on water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SNEGZpaovg
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You're evading the issues.
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Have you ever read Genesis, Nipper? :lol: :lol: :lol: You might want to go back and start over.

It says that there were primordial waters first. And God divided them. If you were willing or able to read something besides your cherrypicked scriptures and ICR dreck, you would know this.

Try reading this wikipedia entry and then we can talk. I predict, of course, that you'll refuse. :razz:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_cosmology
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LittleNipper wrote:Common ancestor or common Creator. That is the question!


Nothing but PRATTS. Here you go.

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LittleNipper wrote:The very fact that the Bible clearly states that the circle of the earth hangs on nothing introduces space and isn't a world sitting on water. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SNEGZpaovg


1 Chronicles 16:30: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable.”

Psalm 93:1: “Thou hast fixed the earth immovable and firm ...”

Psalm 96:10: “He has fixed the earth firm, immovable ...”

Psalm 104:5: “Thou didst fix the earth on its foundation so that it never can be shaken.”

Isaiah 45:18: “...who made the earth and fashioned it, and himself fixed it fast...”

https://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm

The Hebrew word that is used in Isaiah 44:22 (חוּג, chug) does not at all imply a spherical earth. The root word only occurs in the Hebrew Bible once as a verb (Job 26:10). In nominal forms, the same root occurs four times, three as the noun חוּג (chug; Job 22:14, Prov 8:27, Isa 40:22), and once as the noun מְחוּגׇה (mechugah; Isa 44:13). This term refers to a "circle instrument," a device used to make a circle, what we call a compass.

Isaiah 44:13 refers to this "circle instrument."

Isa 44:13 The carpenter stretches a line, marks it out with a stylus, fashions it with planes, and marks it with a compass; he makes it in human form, with human beauty, to be set up in a shrine. [NIV]

The verbal form of the word basically means "to make a circle" or "to scribe a circle."

Job 26:10 He has described a circle on the face of the waters, at the boundary between light and darkness. [NRSV]

Most modern translators agree that this "scribing a circle" in relation to the world refers to the horizon of the earth.

NIV: He marks out the horizon on the face of the waters for a boundary between light and darkness.

NLT: He created the horizon when he separated the waters; he set the boundary between day and night.

GWT: He marks the horizon on the surface of the water at the boundary where light meets dark.

Ancient people were very good at observing the physical properties of the earth without necessarily understanding how all of those properties worked. The horizon of the earth is easily seen from any high vantage point or open area as an encompassing circle. This led ancient peoples to describe this "circle" or the horizon as the "edge" or "end" of the earth (Deut 13:7, 1 Sam 2:10, Job 28:24, Psa 48:10, etc.).

http://www.crivoice.org/circle.html
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spotlight wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:Common ancestor or common Creator. That is the question!


Nothing but PRATTS. Here you go.

Why Common Design Common Designer = FAIL


The common designer is Natural Selection. :wink:
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