Question for bomgeography about the flood

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bomgeography wrote:The dum and rude is in reference to your idea that I will have revelations and a following

It has nothing to do with you ignoring DNA artifact cultural traditional hopewell evidence etc.


Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count. :lol:

Since you have no scientific basis, all you have is your testimony that you keep on repeating without evidence and in fact you've linked to demonstrated frauds. If you have evidence you will find a credible person who will vouch for it. That is not you. :lol: And so I've concluded that this is a religious matter and you are warming up to start your own cult presently. That's what rebellious Mormon crackpots do. :wink:
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All the data concerning hopewell artifacts, DNA, cultural, archeological sites. Native American tradition matching the Book of Mormon and Bible is all done by NON LDS researchers.
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tapirrider wrote:In a post you said "A localized flood is a completely viable scenario". That got me thinking about haplogroup x2a'j in Iran. How do you decide that it is evidence of a migration from the Near East to America instead of evidence that Noah and his family got off the ark in Turkey near the Iranian border? I ask because LDS teachings are that Adam through Noah was in America. How do you decide if they had haplogroup x or not? How do you decide that haplogroup x began in the Near East when the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saint's doctrine is that mankind began in Missouri?


bomgeography wrote:Adam and Eve got kicked out of the garden of Eden. All of the posterity of Adam and Eve could have been in the Mississippi flood plain with only Noah and those who entered the ark as the survivors.

I don't believe in a world wide flood. I think Noah land in the Mesopotamia flood plain area.

The cultural and DNA evidence proves the necessary ties to Iran and Lehi to haplo group X.

Also haplo group X fits the scriptural narrative of Joseph in Egypt and Lehi of Manasseh being occupied by the Assyrians.



Please address haplogroup x2a'j of Iran to be evidence of Noah landing in the Middle East. I already know that you consider it evidence of Lehi's migration to America. All I am asking is why you don't consider it evidence for the other. It fits the LDS doctrine on the first humans being in North America.
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I don't see how it could be evidence of Noah or the flood since the X mutation most likely came after the flood.
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bomgeography wrote:I don't see how it could be evidence of Noah or the flood since the X mutation most likely came after the flood.


Interesting. Why is it most likely to have happened after the flood?
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Tapir, bmg throws dating out the window. He feels justified in creating whatever timeline is consistent with his predetermined conclusions.
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bomgeography wrote:All of the posterity of Adam and Eve could have been in the Mississippi flood plain with only Noah and those who entered the ark as the survivors.


What about all of the other American Indians who lived outside of that flood plain, including Mesoamerica and South America? Are you saying they were not Adam's posterity? If so, were they human? Were they also God's children? Or were they mere animals?
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bomgeography wrote:All the data concerning hopewell artifacts, DNA, cultural, archeological sites. Native American tradition matching the Book of Mormon and Bible is all done by NON LDS researchers.


I repeat:


Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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Re: Question for bomgeography about the flood

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tapirrider wrote:
bomgeography wrote:All of the posterity of Adam and Eve could have been in the Mississippi flood plain with only Noah and those who entered the ark as the survivors.


What about all of the other American Indians who lived outside of that flood plain, including Mesoamerica and South America? Are you saying they were not Adam's posterity? If so, were they human? Were they also God's children? Or were they mere animals?



They arrived to the Americas after the flood.

Once again the DNA shows they arrived via ocean voyage. Not across the barren Bering ice bridge. Some of those haplo groups lack evidence in Siberia showing this supposed crossing.
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bomgeography wrote:All of the posterity of Adam and Eve could have been in the Mississippi flood plain with only Noah and those who entered the ark as the survivors.


tapirrider wrote:What about all of the other American Indians who lived outside of that flood plain, including Mesoamerica and South America? Are you saying they were not Adam's posterity? If so, were they human? Were they also God's children? Or were they mere animals?


bomgeography wrote:They arrived to the Americas after the flood.

Once again the DNA shows they arrived via ocean voyage. Not across the barren Bering ice bridge. Some of those haplo groups lack evidence in Siberia showing this supposed crossing.


There are active LDS who play with the idea of people before Adam and people not from Adam living at the same time as Adam and his posterity. Thanks for clarifying your position.

What about the Mayans? I seem to remember you saying they were not Book of Mormon people. Did they arrive in a separate ocean voyage that is not written in the Book of Mormon?
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