(Barren)Bering Ice Bridge Theory

[_bomgeography]

You all have FAITH that haplo group X crossed the Bering ice bridge. Because you certainly do not have evidence for it.

Faith is something that is hoped for but can't be seen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)#/media/File:Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA).PN

[_Maksutov]

You all have FAITH that haplo group X crossed the Bering ice bridge. Because you certainly do not have evidence for it.

Faith is something that is hoped for but can't be seen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)#/media/File:Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA).PN

Great. Repetition. I can do that.

Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.

[_bomgeography]

Here the is the data it's comes from non LDS scientist researchers and historians

Who ever said there is no evidence for the Book of Mormon needs to rethink their stance.
There is direct or indirect evidence for every aspect of the ancient record.


Buried Nephite City and Book of Mormon Elephants
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hants.html

What City of Bountiful Artifacts Would Look Like
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... would.html

Children of Israel and Native American Fiery Flying Serpents
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... rican.html

Native American Traditional use of Sacred Metal Tablets
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... se-of.html

Nephite (Hopewell Mik Maq) Old World Burial Rites and Rituals
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... world.html

Exact Location of the Waters of Mormon
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ormon.html

Mik Maq Nephites and Christ visit
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... visit.html

Iroquios Lamanites
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... nites.html

Cherokee Zoramites
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... mites.html

Hopewell Smelting
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... lting.html

Hopewell meteoric iron axes and tools
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... tools.html

Archeological Evidence of the West Sea Fortified Line
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... t-sea.html

DNA Evidence of A white race of Indian
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... an_12.html

The extermination of a white race of Indian
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ce-of.html

Best Book of Mormon DNA Evidence X2A'J
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... e-x2a.html

Hill Cumorah Mass Burial Pits and Battlegrounds
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... s-and.html

Reformed Egyptian Four Surviving Characters
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... glyph.html

Native American ties to the Book of Mormon
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ormon.html

Native American Jewish Hamsa Symbol
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ymbol.html

Book of Mormon Cloth and Fine Twined Linen
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ttons.html

Book of Mormon Breastplates and Jewelry
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... welry.html

Book of Mormon Horses Chariots Highways and Trade
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hways.html

Native American Hebrew like temples
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... mples.html

Native American Hebrew and Old World Language Ties
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... guage.html

Book of Mormon Swords
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... words.html

Exact location of the Waters of Ripliancum: to Exceed All
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ancum.html

Archeological Evidence of the Fortified Cities by the East Sea
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ified.html

Best map of the Book of Mormon nobody can find any discrepancies with it
Six Sea Model Alma Chapter 22 Book of Mormon Map
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... m-map.html

Native American Freemasonry and the Temple
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... emple.html

[Guest]

You all have FAITH that haplo group X crossed the Bering ice bridge. Because you certainly do not have evidence for it.

Faith is something that is hoped for but can't be seen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA)#/media/File:Haplogroup_X_(mtDNA).PN

David, it is not faith based. The published sources that detail the evidence have been given to you many times. Whether you choose to ignore it, discard it or outright misrepresent it is up to you, but claiming that I have based my understandings of the Beringian migration on faith is not true.

Here is something else that you linked to that you haven't dealt with.
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n ... 180955976/

Did you read the article or just try to make a connection that Australians had migrated to America? The article says:

the researchers think that they all share a common ancestor that lived tens of thousands of years ago in Asia but that doesn’t otherwise persist today. One branch of this family tree moved north to Siberia, while the other spread south to New Guinea and Australia. The northern branch likely migrated across the land bridge in a separate surge from the Eurasian founders.

When you ignore evidence based timelines and ancient dates you are discarding science that conflicts with your faith. Doing that is not honest and does not lead to truth.

[_tapirrider]

Here the is the data it's comes from non LDS scientist researchers and historians

Who ever said there is no evidence for the Book of Mormon needs to rethink their stance.
There is direct or indirect evidence for every aspect of the ancient record.


Buried Nephite City and Book of Mormon Elephants
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hants.html

What City of Bountiful Artifacts Would Look Like
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... would.html

Children of Israel and Native American Fiery Flying Serpents
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... rican.html

Native American Traditional use of Sacred Metal Tablets
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... se-of.html

Nephite (Hopewell Mik Maq) Old World Burial Rites and Rituals
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... world.html

Exact Location of the Waters of Mormon
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ormon.html

Mik Maq Nephites and Christ visit
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... visit.html

Iroquios Lamanites
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... nites.html

Cherokee Zoramites
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... mites.html

Hopewell Smelting
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... lting.html

Hopewell meteoric iron axes and tools
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... tools.html

Archeological Evidence of the West Sea Fortified Line
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... t-sea.html

DNA Evidence of A white race of Indian
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... an_12.html

The extermination of a white race of Indian
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ce-of.html

Best Book of Mormon DNA Evidence X2A'J
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... e-x2a.html

Hill Cumorah Mass Burial Pits and Battlegrounds
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... s-and.html

Reformed Egyptian Four Surviving Characters
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... glyph.html

Native American ties to the Book of Mormon
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ormon.html

Native American Jewish Hamsa Symbol
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ymbol.html

Book of Mormon Cloth and Fine Twined Linen
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ttons.html

Book of Mormon Breastplates and Jewelry
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... welry.html

Book of Mormon Horses Chariots Highways and Trade
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hways.html

Native American Hebrew like temples
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... mples.html

Native American Hebrew and Old World Language Ties
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... guage.html

Book of Mormon Swords
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... words.html

Exact location of the Waters of Ripliancum: to Exceed All
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ancum.html

Archeological Evidence of the Fortified Cities by the East Sea
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ified.html

Best map of the Book of Mormon nobody can find any discrepancies with it
Six Sea Model Alma Chapter 22 Book of Mormon Map
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... m-map.html

Native American Freemasonry and the Temple
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... emple.html

David McKane, we have gone through this to the point that it makes my head hurt. You still haven't removed the Michigan relics, the elephant effigy pipes, etc. from your writings. Until you do that your claims of direct evidence are absurd. You just keep right on posting the same discredited things. Why are you doing this?

[_Maksutov]

Here the is the data it's comes from non LDS scientist researchers and historians

Who ever said there is no evidence for the Book of Mormon needs to rethink their stance.
There is direct or indirect evidence for every aspect of the ancient record.


Buried Nephite City and Book of Mormon Elephants
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hants.html

What City of Bountiful Artifacts Would Look Like
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... would.html

Children of Israel and Native American Fiery Flying Serpents
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... rican.html

Native American Traditional use of Sacred Metal Tablets
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... se-of.html

Nephite (Hopewell Mik Maq) Old World Burial Rites and Rituals
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... world.html

Exact Location of the Waters of Mormon
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ormon.html

Mik Maq Nephites and Christ visit
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... visit.html

Iroquios Lamanites
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... nites.html

Cherokee Zoramites
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... mites.html

Hopewell Smelting
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... lting.html

Hopewell meteoric iron axes and tools
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... tools.html

Archeological Evidence of the West Sea Fortified Line
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... t-sea.html

DNA Evidence of A white race of Indian
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... an_12.html

The extermination of a white race of Indian
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ce-of.html

Best Book of Mormon DNA Evidence X2A'J
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... e-x2a.html

Hill Cumorah Mass Burial Pits and Battlegrounds
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... s-and.html

Reformed Egyptian Four Surviving Characters
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... glyph.html

Native American ties to the Book of Mormon
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ormon.html

Native American Jewish Hamsa Symbol
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ymbol.html

Book of Mormon Cloth and Fine Twined Linen
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ttons.html

Book of Mormon Breastplates and Jewelry
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... welry.html

Book of Mormon Horses Chariots Highways and Trade
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... hways.html

Native American Hebrew like temples
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... mples.html

Native American Hebrew and Old World Language Ties
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... guage.html

Book of Mormon Swords
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... words.html

Exact location of the Waters of Ripliancum: to Exceed All
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ancum.html

Archeological Evidence of the Fortified Cities by the East Sea
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... ified.html

Best map of the Book of Mormon nobody can find any discrepancies with it
Six Sea Model Alma Chapter 22 Book of Mormon Map
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... m-map.html

Native American Freemasonry and the Temple
http://bookofmormonevidence.blogspot.co ... emple.html

Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.
Show me a single professional in archaeology or anthropology or history who will endorse your stories. Amateurs and pedophile Nazis don't count.

Do you ever get tired of this silly game?

You know, some people express their OCD through ritualized and compulsive behavior. Pretty good description of what you're doing, don't you think? If this is therapeutic for you, I'll be more sympathetic.

[_bomgeography]

You can not expect the non LDS researchers to know that there data backs of the Book of Mormon if they do not know anything about it.

Data Sources
http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_X_mtDNA.shtml
The Presence of Mitochondrial haplogroup X in Altaians from South Siberia
Am. J. Hum. Genet. 69:237–241, 2001
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-n ... 76/?no-ist
MtDNA haplogroup X: An Ancient Link between Europe/Western Asia and North America
Michael D. Brown,1 Seyed H. Hosseini,1 Antonio Torroni,2 Hans-Ju¨rgenBandelt,3 Jon C. Allen,1 Theodore G. Schurr,1 Rosaria Scozzari,2 Fulvio Cruciani,2 and Douglas C. Wallace1
https://markgelbart.wordpress.com/2010/ ... eistocene/
http://pidba.org/content/fluted.JPG
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clovis_spear_points
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 9707616292
“Great Surprise”—Native Americans Have West Eurasian Origins
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news ... -genetics/
Origin and Diffusion of mtDNA haplogroup X
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1180497/
http://www.academicroom.com/article/ide ... n-analysis
The Dover Mound by William S Webb and Charles Snow
(In Mohawk Country: Early Narratives about a Native People
By Dean R. Snow, Charles T. Gehring, William A. Starna)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Hopewell_Road
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/article ... 1-0268.pdf
The Adena People
By William S. Webb, Charles E. Snow, James B. Griffin
The Scioto Hopewell and Their Neighbors: Bioarchaeological Documentation and Cultural Understanding
By Daniel Troy Case, Christopher Carr
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adena_culture
Mounds for the Dead, by Don Dragoo
http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/d-bri ... n-origins/
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC379119/
First Americans arrived as 2 separate migrations, according to new genetic evidence
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 121618.htm
Twelve Millennia: Archaeology of the Upper Mississippi River Valley
By James L Theler and Robert F Boszhardt
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horned_Serpent
http://apps.ohiohistory.org/ohioarchaeo ... -revealed/
http://www.npr.org/2011/01/03/132412112 ... of-indiana
A Most Indispensable Art: Native Fiber Industries from Eastern North America
By James B. Petersen
Writings of Caleb Atwater
https://archive.org/details/writingsofcaleba00atwa
New Relations of Gaspesia by Father Chretian Le Clercq
https://archive.org/details/newrelationofgas05lecl
Views of Louisiana by Henry M. Brackenridge
https://archive.org/details/viewsoflouisiana00inbrac
The Natural and Aboriginal History of Tennessee by John Haywood
https://archive.org/details/naturalaborigina00hayw
Ancient History of the six Nations by David Cusick
https://archive.org/details/davidcusickssket00cusi
A Star in the West by Elias Boudinot
https://archive.org/details/starinwestorhumb00boudarch
Myths of the Cherokees by James Mooney
https://archive.org/details/cu31924104080076
New Views of the Origins of the Tribe and Nations of America by Benjamin Barton
https://archive.org/details/cihm_42881
Life of Joseph Brant-Thayendanegea: by William Stone
https://archive.org/details/lifejosephbrant03stongoog
On the Aborigines of the Western Countries by M.H. Frost
https://books.google.com/books?id=HlEoA ... %20Josephe h%20Daviess%2C%20when%20at%20St.%20Louis%20in%201800%2C&f=false
The History of the American Indians; by James Adair https://books.google.com/books?id=g7BIf ... r.&f=false
Legends of the Micmac by Silas T Rand
https://archive.org/stream/cihm_12305#page/n13/mode/2up
The Coronado expedition
https://books.google.com/books?id=fSEQA ... ss&f=false
Voyage to Carolina by John Lawson
http://docsouth.unc.edu/nc/lawson/lawson.html
Problems of the Ohio Mounds by Cyrus Thomas
https://archive.org/details/problemofohiomou00thom
The Hopewell Mound Group of Ohio< Volume 6, Issue 5 by Warren King Moorehead
https://books.google.com/books?id=529BA ... th&f=false
History, manners, and customs of the Indian nations who once inhabited Pennsylvania and the neighboring states By John Heckewelder
https://archive.org/details/histmannerscust00heckrich
The Tennessee Mound Builders by Joseph Jones
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2447098
Foot-prints of vanished races in the Mississippi valley by Alban Conant
https://archive.org/details/footprintsofvani00conauoft
HISTORY OF THE OJIBWAYS, BASED UPON TRADITIONS AND ORAL STATEMENTS by Warren Williams
https://archive.org/details/historyojibways00nielgoog
The Iowa by William Harvey Miner
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/39952/39 ... 9952-h.htm
Aboriginal monuments of the state of New-York. Comprising the results of original surveys and explorations by E.G. Squier
https://archive.org/details/cu31924104075308
The Mound Builders Their Work and Relics by Rev Stephen D Peet PhD
https://archive.org/details/moundbuilders00peetrich
Link is for Greek language Book of Mormon ties
http://packham.n4m.org/linguist.htm
http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/native_am ... ituals.htm

[_Maksutov]

Wall of text.

What shall we post? Doesn't matter, does it? You won't produce a person of credibility and you keep trying to shift the burden. You think we've never seen a Mormon Gish gallop before. Silly boy, this is not the amateur forum no matter how many of you amateurs show up. You're only here because we allow freedom of posting and so you exploit that to advertise your, er, blog.

[_bomgeography]

You do not seem to understand that researches who know nothing about the Book of Mormon are not going to vouch for it but their research does.

The best part about it is that they are non LDS.

The evidence is there.

The artifacts are there and so is the civilization.

You want a non LDS researcher who has never studied the Book of Mormon to confirm the link between the artifacts and hopewell civilization.

If a professional researcher does do this do you really think this will change your mind about the Book of Mormon I'm telling you it won't.

[_Themis]

You can not expect the non LDS researchers to know that there data backs of the Book of Mormon if they do not know anything about it.

They don't need to know. They have dated the haplotype x and many things showing much older then Book of Mormon times. They deal with claims of old world connections to various artifacts all the time. It was the norm in Joseph's smith day, but the real science done in the last couple centuries has concluded very differently. They have no motivation to do so. Making these kind of connections would be very good for ones career. There is a reason history channels are creating shows about ancient aliens and such. It is more interesting to most people then the real science.