(Barren)Bering Ice Bridge Theory

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bomgeography wrote:The heartland model has a convention every year where hundreds maybe thousands of people attend. They discuss they evidence the North American model and native traditions present.
They even pay money to go on tours to hopewell archeological sites.

I don't know if I agree with that part of it but there is a definite market for it.

Ken Ham's Ark that he built that imitates Noah's Ark brings in tens of thousands of people to so what? and people pay him big bucks to try to prove that story true but it doesn't. What does groups of people gathering and paying money to listen to other people have anything to do with what is real and what is not?
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IHAQ

Isn't the bigger question, why doesn't the Church sponsor the convention?


I think the intellect has something to do with that. It would truly be beyond them. The Brethren are not into intellectual reality. Even if it is crackpots coming up with really weird invented fake evidence. But then there was Joseph Smith.......
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Philo Sofee wrote:
IHAQ

Isn't the bigger question, why doesn't the Church sponsor the convention?


I think the intellect has something to do with that. It would truly be beyond them. The Brethren are not into intellectual reality. Even if it is crackpots coming up with really weird invented fake evidence. But then there was Joseph Smith.......


They can't sponsor it because that would mean taking a stance on where the Book of Mormon events took place. And they know as well as we do how that works out for them...
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
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IHAQ

They can't sponsor it because that would mean taking a stance on where the Book of Mormon events took place. And they know as well as we do how that works out for them...

Precisely my dear Watson. It's the same reason they don't take a stance on Evolution or at least pretend not to. Sorry about the dear Watson thing I'm watching the series Sherlock on TV and I have Sherlock Holmes on the brain. What a great series!
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bomgeography wrote:The heartland model has a convention every year where hundreds maybe thousands of people attend. They discuss they evidence the North American model and native traditions present.
They even pay money to go on tours to hopewell archeological sites.

I don't know if I agree with that part of it but there is a definite market for it.

The days of saying there is no evidence is over

That argument was true for meso America that's not the case anymore.


That conference has included a fake Cherokee who sells cures for cancer, Sheriff Mack who said put women and children in the front to be shot, the lawbreaking welfare ranching Bundys, etc. etc. David McKane, the followers of the heartland model are even worse nutcases than the promoters of the Mesoamerican LGT. The biggest problem is that LDS church won't take a position. I remember General Conferences where Apostles Marion G. Romney and Mark E. Peterson came right out and said that the final battle was in New York and that all American Indians from the tip of South America to Alaska were Book of Mormon people. Now the top leaders just remain silent while members dispute and disagree among themselves over something as simple as where the stories allegedly happened. The heartland model and the Mesoamerican model are both failures and there is really nothing of credibility or substance. You can believe whatever you want to believe, you can make up anything to make yourself think you have evidence. But don't expect others to buy into it. Many fine and decent members of the LDS church don't have anything to do with either geographic model or the followers of this kind of nonsense.
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For those you do care the North American model wins out.

That's based on the attendance of their conferences and the artifact cultural DNA arch sites Native American tradition that support the Book of Mormon etc that is presented.
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bomgeography wrote:For those you do care the North American model wins out.

That's based on the attendance of their conferences and the artifact cultural DNA arch sites Native American tradition that support the Book of Mormon etc that is presented.


There are no winners when truth is forfeited to advance a fantasy.
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It's not fantasy.
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bomgeography wrote:It's not fantasy.


The entire claim of ancient Hebrews in America is really just a fantasy. It did not happen. You forfeit truth every time you try to advance the Michigan relics, the elephant effigy pipes, your twisted and distorted haplogroup x claims, etc. There are no winners in fantasy conferences.
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It's a win for fiction authors....
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