Equality wrote:There shall, in that time, be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi-- with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock. Yea, it is written in the book of Cyril that, in that time, shall the third one...
Are we invited to a luau? Hoola you trying to foola?
Nightlion wrote:Rather, these would have been treasured as sacred and he would scarcely have allowed them to be put out of his hands.
You mean like the Book of Mormon copyright?
Nightlion wrote:I see the evidence trailing this man and his gang of tares. He continued his art for another sixty years completely undetected and successful at the highest level of Mormon authority.
Could it be...Wilford Woodruff?
Nightlion wrote:The art of subterfuge is the highest of all the dark arts
Wait, I thought the highest of the dark arts was the creation of a horcrux. I could swear I read that in some obscure book somewhere. Or heard it in a movie.
"The Church is authoritarian, tribal, provincial, and founded on a loosely biblical racist frontier sex cult."--Juggler Vain "The LDS church is the Amway of religions. Even with all the soap they sell, they still manage to come away smelling dirty."--Some Schmo
Equality wrote: Wait, I thought the highest of the dark arts was the creation of a horcrux. I could swear I read that in some obscure book somewhere. Or heard it in a movie.
Buffalo seems to think I failed to address a great point of yours. Is this it? Or that I should admit Joseph was a fraud? He was not. He 'set up' the Gentiles to continue for God's purposes and endure until the Lord comes that the earth might be held accountable. Much like Moses 'set up' the Jews to be responsible in rejecting Christ. Polygamy helped to serve that purpose because they were NOT getting the gospel even slightly right. To cause them to take themselves as seriously as the Jews did was what the set up was all for. Now their day is done and the consequences of their apostasy will reap the whirlwind upon the whole earth.
God needs a valid stooge nation and people to play off to wind up the scene. This time it will be the Gentiles turn.
Not to resurrect This Thread facetiously however this was a spectacular trip. I hope we can get dreads like this more often here. I hope we haven't run through the whole gamut of interesting discussions.
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Philo Sofee wrote:Not to resurrect This Thread facetiously however this was a spectacular trip. I hope we can get dreads like this more often here. I hope we haven't run through the whole gamut of interesting discussions.
Thanks for resurrecting a few of these threads, facetiously or not!
There are a lot of people who, for whatever reason, did not catch all of these threads the first time around; for some, many aspects of the information are new, so the indulgence of those more experienced is appreciated in allowing conversations to repeat. Although I have done a fair amount of background reading here to try to get up to speed on current topics, I am continually (and pleasantly) surprised by dormant threads that come to the surface every so often.
Philo Sofee wrote:Not to resurrect This Thread facetiously however this was a spectacular trip. I hope we can get dreads like this more often here. I hope we haven't run through the whole gamut of interesting discussions.
Thanks for resurrecting a few of these threads, facetiously or not!
There are a lot of people who, for whatever reason, did not catch all of these threads the first time around; for some, many aspects of the information are new, so the indulgence of those more experienced is appreciated in allowing conversations to repeat. Although I have done a fair amount of background reading here to try to get up to speed on current topics, I am continually (and pleasantly) surprised by dormant threads that come to the surface every so often.
Me too! I mean this place is a frickin GOLD MINE
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Lemmie wrote: There are a lot of people who, for whatever reason, did not catch all of these threads the first time around; for some, many aspects of the information are new, so the indulgence of those more experienced is appreciated in allowing conversations to repeat. Although I have done a fair amount of background reading here to try to get up to speed on current topics, I am continually (and pleasantly) surprised by dormant threads that come to the surface every so often.
Me too! I mean this place is a frickin GOLD MINE
You know that the comments that Don and I had on this thread turned into a long private conversation and collaboration about the KP. We discovered some new things and came to some interesting conclusions. He has his, and I, mine, but the researching and sharing we've done has benefited us both greatly. My respect and admiration for Don has only grown as a result of our conversations.
Riding on a speeding train; trapped inside a revolving door; Lost in the riddle of a quatrain; Stuck in an elevator between floors. One focal point in a random world can change your direction: One step where events converge may alter your perception.
You know that the comments that Don and I had on this thread turned into a long private conversation and collaboration about the KP. We discovered some new things and came to some interesting conclusions. He has his, and I, mine, but the researching and sharing we've done has benefited us both greatly. My respect and admiration for Don has only grown as a result of our conversations.
I second that motion he is a cool Bean.
Dr CamNC4Me
"Dr. Peterson and his Callithumpian cabal of BYU idiots have been marginalized by their own inevitable irrelevancy defending a fraud."
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Uh. Facts do, indeed, change the way we view the world. For example, when I discovered Joseph Smith used a rock to 'receive' the Book of Mormon it completely changed the way I viewed the "translation" especially given the fact the plates, unlike they're depicted in Church art, were never used.
I don't need to Matrix-level bend reality in order to understand it. When new, incontrovertible evidence is placed before me, my understanding of reality becomes clearer.
- Doc
You do not know the facts at all. Just because Joseph Smith used a hat so he could more easily read what the Lord wrote changes nothing about the Book of Mormon. Joseph was given the plates to study and know that the book actually existed and was in need of translation. Now he could keep them safe and simply receive the dictation of the Lord being a seer he would see with the eyes of a seer. YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW A SEER SEES.
Critical thinking this is not.
2 Tim 4:3 For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. 2 Tim 4:4 They will turn their ears away from the truth & turn aside to myths
