Answers to Creationist Attacks on C-14 Dating

[_LittleNipper]

You want to believe what some scientists say they know without any shadow of doubt regarding what transpired billions of years ago, that is totally up to you.

The thing about science is you don't have to take somebody's word for anything. You can check the evidence for yourself. This is just the opposite of what religion requires of us. You believe what some unknown person wrote down thousands of years ago.

It will not help you one iota with what is happening today or tomorrow.

That depends upon whether or not I might need medical expertise to save my life. You can show your faith by refusing medical assistance and depend upon the prayers of your friends and family if you prefer.

As for slandering a man who had a run in with the IRS over what constitutes what is taxable and what isn't is unfounded. Perhaps a separation of Church and State favors the State (likely another reason President Trump was elected). Tell me, where did Darwin study biology and graduate? My arguments come from more than this one individual and you are most certainly aware of this oversight on you part.

Kent's "arguments" are BS irrespective of his stand against the tax system. Those others you lean on are just as scientifically illiterate as Kent Hovind. You can't see it either because of the false dichotomy that provides a mental block or for insufficient gray matter to comprehend the topic.

Yes, yes, yes ------ Everyone who doesn't embrace millions and millions and billion and billions of years of natural selection as the way man came about has to be ignorant, stupid and foolishly arrogant. The only "real" scientists are those who are fully aware that the Bible is just fable and man is nothing if not moving out further away from the slime pits. We are soooo morally superior to our ancient ancestors we're becoming demigods! And true doctors never pray. They know everything under the sun.

God encourages doctors and guides them through prayer --- of their own volition and/or of those surrounding the patient. No man is an island.

[_spotlight]

Yes, yes, yes ------ Everyone who doesn't embrace millions and millions and billion and billions of years of natural selection as the way man came about has to be ignorant, stupid and foolishly arrogant.

Yes, that's right. At least at this point in time with the data that is now available. Only someone truly ignorant or severely lacking in intelligence would think otherwise.

The only "real" scientists are those who are fully aware that the Bible is just fable

Certainly it would be the case for biologists. It has been a relatively recent development in archaeology that the early part of the Bible is not supported as being historical. So this would also apply to archaeologists. Hopefully most other scientists in other branches would be in the know as well even if Christian.

and man is nothing if not moving out further away from the slime pits.

What is more disgusting to you? Slime or what you leave behind in the draught (Biblical definition here) every morning?

We are soooo morally superior to our ancient ancestors we're becoming demigods!

Morally? We are diverse at any age of the world there, but as a species we are indeed superior, vastly so, in intelligence and knowledge acquired.

And true doctors never pray. They know everything under the sun.

Let's have you do a test of this idea. Pick an area of math that you know nothing about. Have a professor prepare a test/exam question on the topic that you cannot answer. Then retire to your closet and give yourself to prayer/fasting until you have the answer. Bring it to your professor. Report back with your results.

God encourages doctors and guides them through prayer

So the doctor is like "I'm almost done with this heart surgery but I'm tired and I'd like to take a break." But god steps in, only if he has wasted some energy in prayer, and encourages him to continue? He uses his spirit to push him along does he?

Do you find the following convincing?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieFUcaXW5LE

[_huckelberry]

You want to believe what some scientists say they know without any shadow of doubt regarding what transpired billions of years ago, that is totally up to you. ....... Tell me, where did Darwin study biology and graduate?

It is clear that Darwins most important study was going out into the real world which God created and looking at what was actually there. That is also the way geologists started thinking the world is old. Geology did not start with the assumption the world is old.

As for myself I think the world is very old because that is what I see when I go outside and spend real time seeing what God created.

[_Maksutov]

Nipper, are the Christians who accept evolution not real Christians?

[_LittleNipper]

Nipper, are the Christians who accept evolution not real Christians?

Are scientists who accept Divine Revelation not real scientists?

[_Maksutov]

Nipper, are the Christians who accept evolution not real Christians?

Are scientists who accept Divine Revelation not real scientists?

I don't know. I do know that you won't answer the question I put to you. I think it's because you know there are thousands if not millions of educated Christians who disagree with you. And they read the same Bible you do and probably know it better than you do. They don't have to fill their brains with the pathetic stories of convict Ken Hovind. They go to real universities, get real degrees, do research and teach and are good and decent people who have the humility to recognize that they can learn from other scientists, that science is not a matter of one book endlessly repeated and cut and pasted in lieu of actual thinking and understanding.

[_Lemmie]

No pilot I know of needs to know anything about the theory of biological evolution to fly a plane safely. But I do hope he knows how to pray at least when needed.

why? What piloting skill does prayer accomplish or enhance?

It puts the control in the hand of the Savior.

Oh come on. You mean that ironically, right? How do you know it puts control in the power of the supernatural? Are good people saved? Are bad people allowed to die? Is there a mix? There is absolutely no justification for saying someone was saved by their faith in the same week that someone is saying he had great faith but it was time for him to be called home.

On a more practical note, are you saying that atheist pilots are not as good at their job as praying pilots?

[_Maksutov]

There is absolutely no justification for saying someone was saved by their faith in the same week that someone is saying he had great faith but it was time for him to be called home.

After the Boston Marathon bombing, there were people sitting in the same church thanking God for not being killed while contemplating those who died. How did that compute? Something along the lines of "God's gonna do what God's gonna do." Which is a null proposition consistent with atheism or Deism or belief in karma. But, hey, this doesn't have much to do with rationality, after all. Religion is an organic growth originating in the reptile brain, not the cerebellum.

[_The CCC]

Charles Darwin attended the University at Edinburgh and studied Religion and Medicine.

[_The CCC]

I know lots of scientists who are Christian. I don't know any that buy into the ravings of convicted felon Kent Hovind.