Facsimile 3 Assessed and found fraudulent

[_Dr Exiled]

Ed:

Given the above comments, how on earth can you be indignant at Philo and his conversion to the actual truth? Shouldn't you take a hard look at what's been said so far about your theories and perhaps rethink them? Further your silence is a loud-speaker to anyone paying attention to what's transpired.

[_grindael]

And when Joseph was "translating' the Bible we have NO EVIDENCE that there was a Book of Abraham. This would have been the perfect place to insert such a lost book by "revelation". After all, he did it with Moses and with John the Revelator, and even put himself in the Book of Genesis.

Why was this not a "catalyst"? Why the big song and dance with the papyrus? Because Joseph was portraying himself as a TRANSLATOR of ANCIENT LANGUAGES, that's why and here was a perfect way to show off his great talent.

[_Philo Sofee]

The Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 stare the First Presidency in the face and challenges the very foundations and credibility of Mormonism. The First Presidency cannot cope with these matters at all. They are cowards and hide behind their white shirts and ties and pretend to be prophets and translators having divine gifts from God. The First Presidency go from house to house receiving starry eyed acclamations of praise from the members to include free meals at every turn. They have no power other than what the membership at large gives them. They are clueless on what to do about Facsimile No. 3.

Facsimile No. 3 really is a silver bullet that I love to shoot right in the head of the church. Ram it right down the throats of lying Mormons. The Explanations of Facsimile No. 3 are lies and the Mormons continue to cover their shameful lies by lying to themselves and everyone else while all along living in denial.

Thank you for confirming my prediction....... and yes, I certianly AM taking your advice and bringing out facsimile 3 every time now. I will continue to do so.

And when Joseph was "translating' the Bible we have NO EVIDENCE that there was a Book of Abraham. This would have been the perfect place to insert such a lost book by "revelation". After all, he did it with Moses and with John the Revelator, and even put himself in the Book of Genesis.

Why was this not a "catalyst"? Why the big song and dance with the papyrus? Because Joseph was portraying himself as a TRANSLATOR of ANCIENT LANGUAGES, that's why and here was a perfect way to show off his great talent.

SO many questions about the myriads of improbable oddities in this story!

[_Themis]

I would think that the Supreme Being, the Creator of the Universe, would not have to use these half-baked, inept, fake-looking Rube Goldberg incompetent fails to try to promulgate his message. Why not a papyrus that actually says what it needs to? A powerful God couldn't arrange that? Really?

You would hope guys like Ed would think of this but they don't. They come into this with a conclusion that is certain and cannot be challenged. Most members understand that it makes sense God would would just have it written down in the language of the person creating the document. Ed probably believes the gold plates are just written in the language of Moroni used in life. But the papyri obviously is not about Abraham, but he cannot question Joseph being anything but a real prophet of God, so he goes way off into fantasy land.

[_krose]

...even put himself in the Book of Genesis.

Wow. I either missed this or forgot it from my long-past Mo days. Do you mind telling me what he inserted?

[_Shulem]

Translated from conventional Egyptian and Reformed Egyptian

1. The Book of Abraham was presented to the Latter-day Saints as an English translation of the writings of Abraham that were contained on papyrus had by Joseph Smith.

Likewise:

2. The Book of Mormon was presented to the Latter-day Saints as an English translation of the writings of Mormon that were contained on gold plates had by Joseph Smith.

Both claims to translate ancient Egyptian are false. Joseph Smith lied. Those who defend his lies for the sake of maintaining their woo-woo holy spirit driven testimonies are partakers of the original lie. Lay aside your woo-woo ghost-driven testimonies and supposed spiritual manifestations of the brain and start to embrace reality and the cold hard facts.

[_aussieguy55]

My question is - Why are the Prince and the Slave holding onto the arms of the waiter? Did he give bad service?

[_Quasimodo]

My question is - Why are the Prince and the Slave holding onto the arms of the waiter? Did he give bad service?

It looks to me that the slave (Olimla) is shaking the waiter (Shulem's) booty. Perhaps as a reward.

[_Jersey Girl]

Shulem and Philo Sofee both jump the fence and landed on the same side.

Stuff you never thought you'd see in a catrillion years.
;-)

[_Quasimodo]

Shulem and Philo Sofee both jump the fence and landed on the same side.

Stuff you never thought you'd see in a catrillion years.
;-)

Miracles do happen! This board may actually have a purpose. Our long lost Zeezrom is another good example.