LittleNipper wrote:As a result he finds many if not most people in India, (where he returns with regularity) are very lazy and set in their ways. They simply accept things as they are and are not by nature open to question or change.
That's funny. You do realize how many students from India come here to study science and engineering at our great secular and even CHRISTIAN universities? Those are the ones open to question and change. You know, the questions and change you aren't open to, and studying at the places where you would never go? But your superiority is noted.
Wonder if the accuracy of reporting is consistent across the board. The picture could be out of focus if (and I know this is hard to imagine) some groups failed to give accurate numbers for PR purposes.
LittleNipper wrote:As a result he finds many if not most people in India, (where he returns with regularity) are very lazy and set in their ways. They simply accept things as they are and are not by nature open to question or change.
That's funny. You do realize how many students from India come here to study science and engineering at our great secular and even CHRISTIAN universities? Those are the ones open to question and change. You know, the questions and change you aren't open to, and studying at the places where you would never go? But your superiority is noted.
True, many become "Christianized" or convert to Christianity here. And many arrive here already Chrisitan because of adversity in their native countries. I'm open to question and change for the better and that doesn't mean that all lifestyles are of the same quality or that they promote the same work ethic. You are not open to any answers that include GOD. Christians on the other hand often see how a secular idea or finding actually points to GOD.
LittleNipper wrote:True, many become "Christianized" or convert to Christianity here. And many arrive here already Chrisitan because of adversity in their native countries. I'm open to question and change for the better and that doesn't mean that all lifestyles are of the same quality or that they promote the same work ethic. You are not open to any answers that include GOD. Christians on the other hand often see how a secular idea or finding actually points to GOD.
You don't get to speak for Christians, Nipper. Too many of them disagree with you. Too many of them study actual subjects at actual universities. It's true.
I'm open to evidence of a god. But you haven't provided any, I don't think you know what evidence is, honestly. And you still can't define what "GOD" is. All you can do is spell it. Every religion sees it differently. You're just not that special, sorry, Nipper. No matter what Jack Chick may have told you.
The great SCIENTIST Jean Piaget noted that children's development proceeded from believing they were at the center of the universe to becoming residents of it. Enjoy your long long childhood, Nipper. I won't be joining you in it.
Maksutov wrote:I'm open to evidence of a god. But you haven't provided any, I don't think you know what evidence is, honestly. And you still can't define what "GOD" is. All you can do is spell it. Every religion sees it differently. You're just not that special, sorry, Nipper. No matter what Jack Chick may have told you.
The beauty of God is that it can be anything you want - the sun, the moon, a volcano, a mythical beast, a magic 8 ball, a man, a woman etc etc etc. You legitimise your choice of 'God' by drawing targets around where the arrows fall. In other words, create God in whatever image suits you best and then collate 'evidence' that supports what you want to believe whilst simultaneously disregarding anything that doesn't confirm your bias. Simple.
“When we are confronted with evidence that challenges our deeply held beliefs we are more likely to reframe the evidence than we are to alter our beliefs. We simply invent new reasons, new justifications, new explanations. Sometimes we ignore the evidence altogether.” (Mathew Syed 'Black Box Thinking')
Maksutov wrote:I'm open to evidence of a god. But you haven't provided any, I don't think you know what evidence is, honestly. And you still can't define what "GOD" is. All you can do is spell it. Every religion sees it differently. You're just not that special, sorry, Nipper. No matter what Jack Chick may have told you.
The beauty of God is that it can be anything you want - the sun, the moon, a volcano, a mythical beast, a magic 8 ball, a man, a woman etc etc etc. You legitimise your choice of 'God' by drawing targets around where the arrows fall. In other words, create God in whatever image suits you best and then collate 'evidence' that supports what you want to believe whilst simultaneously disregarding anything that doesn't confirm your bias. Simple.
You can see how that could be a sort of primal narcotic. It would have adaptive value and so the predisposition to such might be passed on to successive generations. God evolves with us.
LittleNipper wrote:True, many become "Christianized" or convert to Christianity here. And many arrive here already Chrisitan because of adversity in their native countries. I'm open to question and change for the better and that doesn't mean that all lifestyles are of the same quality or that they promote the same work ethic. You are not open to any answers that include GOD. Christians on the other hand often see how a secular idea or finding actually points to GOD.
You don't get to speak for Christians, Nipper. Too many of them disagree with you. Too many of them study actual subjects at actual universities. It's true.
I'm open to evidence of a god. But you haven't provided any, I don't think you know what evidence is, honestly. And you still can't define what "GOD" is. All you can do is spell it. Every religion sees it differently. You're just not that special, sorry, Nipper. No matter what Jack Chick may have told you.
The great SCIENTIST Jean Piaget noted that children's development proceeded from believing they were at the center of the universe to becoming residents of it. Enjoy your long long childhood, Nipper. I won't be joining you in it.
You don't speak for Christians, as you are not one. God is the center of the Universe, not me or you, nor scientific theory. And few if any universities, colleges, and medical schools were founded by atheists.
Maksutov wrote: You don't get to speak for Christians, Nipper. Too many of them disagree with you. Too many of them study actual subjects at actual universities. It's true.
I'm open to evidence of a god. But you haven't provided any, I don't think you know what evidence is, honestly. And you still can't define what "GOD" is. All you can do is spell it. Every religion sees it differently. You're just not that special, sorry, Nipper. No matter what Jack Chick may have told you.
The great SCIENTIST Jean Piaget noted that children's development proceeded from believing they were at the center of the universe to becoming residents of it. Enjoy your long long childhood, Nipper. I won't be joining you in it.
You don't speak for Christians, as you are not one. God is the center of the Universe, not me or you, nor scientific theory. And few if any universities, colleges, and medical schools were founded by atheists.
I agree, I don't. And I never claimed to.
God is not at the center of the universe. Unless you mean your garden gnome is in the center of your flat earth universe, in which case, I accept that it applies to you.
You are right about who founded the schools. And now they are *not* run by young earth creationists. Christianity--or some Christians, at least--have evolved. They're waiting for you to catch up.
Poor Little Nipper. He does not even realize when he is making Maksutov's point for him.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
I'm open to question and change for the better and that doesn't mean that all lifestyles are of the same quality or that they promote the same work ethic. You are not open to any answers that include GOD. Christians on the other hand often see how a secular idea or finding actually points to GOD.