Epic Mormonism Live on Rosebud Accusations

[jpatterson]

Thanks drumdude.

I'm not sure how/in what way you and others have offered, Doc, but I know she's not checking this board anymore so if that's what you're referring to, I wouldn't count on her having gotten the message. If that's still on the table, though, I can reach out to Rosebud and ask if help from DM folks would be welcome.

[Tator]

Thanks drumdude.

I'm not sure how/in what way you and others have offered, Doc, but I know she's not checking this board anymore so if that's what you're referring to, I wouldn't count on her having gotten the message. If that's still on the table, though, I can reach out to Rosebud and ask if help from DM folks would be welcome.

I'm worried about Doc's back from bending over backwards in offers to do the redacting, two weeks ago.

[jpatterson]

Thanks drumdude.

I'm not sure how/in what way you and others have offered, Doc, but I know she's not checking this board anymore so if that's what you're referring to, I wouldn't count on her having gotten the message. If that's still on the table, though, I can reach out to Rosebud and ask if help from DM folks would be welcome.

I'm worried about Doc's back from bending over backwards in offers to do the redacting, two weeks ago.

I don't recall an actual offer, I just recall Doc continually saying if he had done it, it would have been done a long time ago. Perhaps I missed an actual offer, though.

[Dwight]

Then JP is taking up the Rosebud torch, defending her by acting just like her.

You're probably right.

Peace, folks.

This is you announcing you were taking a break from here cause of the criticism you received in how long it was taking you after Doc offered to do it. He basically begged to be allowed to do it.

[jpatterson]

This is you announcing you were taking a break from here cause of the criticism you received in how long it was taking you after Doc offered to do it. He basically begged to be allowed to do it.

Look, I'm not trying to go out of my way to be pedantic here, but unless I missed it, I see a lot of posts from Doc talking about how easy redaction is but not a single one actually offering to redact. I remember pretty clearly folks here getting impatient that documents weren't coming out, but none of it was in any spirit of offering help or support. Quite the opposite, actually.

Saying "sheesh, redaction is so easy...if I was doing it we'd be done by now" is not the same as begging to be allowed to do it.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

It's 2021 and people don't know how to type "redact" into the search function and find this:

I'll offer to redact the entire cache today, again, since Rosebud and JP have mentioned they're totes going to drop them ... once they're redacted. I'll do it. I'll do it for free. I'll maintain confidentiality. And I'll get it done today.

- Doc

That's a generous offer, Doc. Kinda like her offer to take over MDB and fix it.

Id be “wildly successful” if they just understand that I’m important to their enterprise. Joking aside, I’d literally honor my word, maintain anonymity, and get it done today.

- Doc

Huh.

- Doc

[jpatterson]

It's 2021 and people don't know how to type "redact" into the search function and find this:

I actually did that yesterday because I wanted to make sure I wasn't forgetting something (which I obviously was). I somehow missed your above messages, so I do apologize for now missing them twice! Egg on face. Really sorry and I appreciate your willingness to help.

I've reached out to Rosebud already. Will let you know if/what I hear back.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

It's 2021 and people don't know how to type "redact" into the search function and find this:

I actually did that yesterday because I wanted to make sure I wasn't forgetting something (which I obviously was). I somehow missed your above messages, so I do apologize for now missing them twice! Egg on face. Really sorry and I appreciate your willingness to help.

I've reached out to Rosebud already. Will let you know if/what I hear back.

Ok.

- Doc

[Jason Bourne]

Board members often are not involved beyond (usually) being expected to donate financially. Ideally, they would know more about the organizational mission than that, but they don't necessarily.

Thank you for saying it before I had to. I've grown rather weary of people spouting off all sorts of nonsense about how non-profits do and should function.

I'm going on 17 years of experience working with and for non-profit organizations both small and as big as they come. What you're describing, Saturdays Voyeur, is absolutely not standard practice at successful, ethical non-profits. Board members understand the mission and are engaged in high-level discussions across all aspects of the organization, including finances, policies, development, governing, etc.

What has happened over the years at Open Stories Foundation is not normal. It's got all the hallmarks of dysfunction and an environment ripe for self-dealing, and I'm not just talking about the Rosebud drama. I've said it before and I'll repeat: John Dehlin has no business having access to tax-exempt donations.

Also, if I were you, SV, I wouldn't waste my time making all sorts of assumptions about what do and don't discuss with Rosebud. Plenty of others have made the same mistake here. Stick to the issues presented and avoid going off on tangents about things you have no clue about.

Well I think whether OFS and Dehlin have access to tax exempt donations is not up to you. It is up to IRS. He has a Form 990 that he has to file annually and the form contains a bunch of questions that revolve around tax exempt qualifications. I would assume if things look amiss OFS would be examined. On the other hand it is a likely small potatoes NFP so maybe a its the audit lottery.

[Mayan Elephant]

I am not sure this was the proper use of "dickish"

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And here it is! I even saw this post and somehow missed who posted it.

Howdy Kish. It has been a while since I was around these parts. Looks like this topic is as hot as it ever was.

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