bomgeography wrote: Haplo group x is from the Middle East not Asia. That is a proven fact.
The words proven and fact have commonly accepted meanings in the scientific world, McKane.
I really liked this from spotlight:
Radionuclide dating disproves the necessary timeline for the Book of Mormon to be credible. I was a believing LDS in the era of Joseph Fielding Smith and Bruce R McConkie so I devoted my early life to the task of finding a way to make sense of this area of disagreement between church doctrine and the views of science. I earnestly looked at every possibility expecting to find something that had been overlooked that would explain the disagreement.
There was not any way to explain the data other than as interpreted and accepted by the science community. If you think you have an idea that hasn't been thought of feel free to share it. I can assure you that it is not original. Others have already been down that path and have failed to come up any possible explanation that couwith ld be made to work.
Thanks for your story, spotlight, that was very interesting.
bomgeography wrote:You guys need to have faith in your atheism that nothing happens after death. To be wrong about this will have consequences after death.
"Faith in your atheism"?
Atheism isn't a faith. It isn't a religion. Your threats of consequences after death are pointless. How about you apologize for accusing me of hating America and apologize for fabricating a lie about my avatar. Launching personal attacks on people you don't even know and stating lies about them isn't an acceptable behavior among the living so why even try to preach about consequences after death? It would be better for you to deal with your own failings in this life.
bomgeography wrote:You guys need to have faith in your atheism that nothing happens after death. To be wrong about this will have consequences after death.
No no it's like this. I have no faith period. I ask what evidence there is and what can be decided based upon that evidence. Why go to the extreme of asserting there is nothing beyond the grave? If we discover evidence for that possibility great. None has turned up so far and much has turned up that shows that the mental state is due solely to the material brain.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
bomgeography wrote:You guys need to have faith in your atheism that nothing happens after death. To be wrong about this will have consequences after death.
We might consider it from someone with some credibility. That isn't you.
bomgeography wrote:Millions of members can testify of deeply personal experiences through pray and reading the scriptures. Their faith has brought them peace contentment happiness and assurance for life after death.
And many no longer believe the interpretations they had from these experiences.
Science will never be able to explain why millions of people have spiritual experiences unless the accept that god and the Holy Spirit exist.
bomgeography wrote:You guys go around trying to destroy people's faith. But your faith in atheism is just that faith.
I personally have faith in the DNA distribution of x that disproves the current Bering (barren) ice bridge theory and the dating of haplo group x Haplo group x is from the Middle East not Asia. That is a proven fact.
Your faith is not evidence the science is wrong. It is just you pissing in the wind. You have given no facts to show haplo type x dates to Book of Mormon times.
bomgeography wrote:You guys need to have faith in your atheism that nothing happens after death. To be wrong about this will have consequences after death.
If the JW's are right you will just cease to exist. If other Christian groups are right you go to hell. If there right save a place for me.
Lemmie wrote:Thanks for your story, spotlight, that was very interesting.
Honestly, it was a very painful point in my life. When I came across the isochron method of dating I fought it in my mind. Had I not allowed myself to understand it but had chosen to block it instead, looking back I believe I was at a point where I would have suffered a nervous breakdown. I intuitively understood the danger I was in and had an epiphany at that moment that what I was doing was not healthy, in fact it was dangerous. Therefore it was not good, and as all that is good according to the Book of Mormon comes from god, that god could not be the author of this cognitive dissonance. There lay exposed the self-contradiction. It was downhill after that. But it was an extremely difficult summit to traverse.
Kolob’s set time is “one thousand years according to the time appointed unto that whereon thou standest” (Abraham 3:4). I take this as a round number. - Gee
bomgeography wrote:You guys need to have faith in your atheism that nothing happens after death. To be wrong about this will have consequences after death.
If the JW's are right you will just cease to exist. If other Christian groups are right you go to hell. If there right save a place for me.
