bomgeography wrote:Doctors can actually keep somebody dead for about 45 minutes and bring them back to life without any serious effects by dropping the core body temperature down. One example mentioned the person was dead for 20 minutes enough that all brain activity had stopped.
In another example a women had an outer body experience she was dead for over half an hour brought back to life without issue due to the lowering of the core body temperature. In the recovering room she was able to describe the tools the doctor used to do surgery on her.
Nobody "comes back" from brain death. Brain death means that the cells in the brain are no longer capable of generating the electrical activity that constitutes conscious, or unconscious, brain function. If the cells of the brain are no longer capable, then neither re-profusion, electrical stimulation, chemical stimulation, earnest prayer, or anything else will make them capable again - period.
Im not sure what you mean by brain death. What doctors can do is stop the heart and all brain activity for about 45 minutes. Bring that person back to life without serious health effects by lowering the core body temperature. This type of surgery is done for brain aneurysms.
bomgeography wrote:Im not sure what you mean by brain death. What doctors can do is stop the heart and all brain activity for about 45 minutes. Bring that person back to life without serious health effects by lowering the core body temperature. This type of surgery is done for brain aneurysms.
Once again. As I described earlier on one of these two threads, the patient in such cases is cooled down and put on cardio-pulmonary by-pass (CPB) wherein the cells of the body, including the brain, are mechanically perfused with oxygenated blood.
In the cooled and chemically sedated brain, electrical activity is greatly diminished in amplitude, but the perfused cells continue to be viable and capable of generating electrical activity.
Such individuals are not brain dead, no more than the resuscitated victim of a cold water drowning was brain dead.
David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
Negative Drw it has been shown especially in brain aneurysm that all brain activity stopped. The cold stops the brain from receiving brain damage due to the lack of oxygen.
bomgeography wrote:Negative Drw it has been shown especially in brain aneurysm that all brain activity stopped. The cold stops the brain from receiving brain damage due to the lack of oxygen.
This is a extraordinary claim. It will require extraordinary proof.
Please provide a peer reviewed primary source paper for this claim.
Cooling the brain during surgery can help to prevent ischemia (cell damage due to lack of perfusion) in the area of the brain where blood flow is temporarily interrupted by the surgical procedure.
This cooling does not stop all brain activity. Think about it. If brain functioning were to cease completely, then respiration and cardiac function would cease as well.
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David Hume: "---Mistakes in philosophy are merely ridiculous, those in religion are dangerous."
DrW: "Mistakes in science are learning opportunities and are eventually corrected."
"The results revealed that 40% of those who survived a cardiac arrest were aware during the time that they were clinically dead and before their hearts were restarted. Dr. Parnia, in the interview stated: “The evidence thus far suggests that in the first few minutes after death, consciousness is not annihilated. Whether it fades away afterwards, we do not know, but right after death, consciousness is not lost. We know the brain can’t function when the heart has stopped beating. But in this case conscious awareness appears to have continued for up to three minutes into the period when the heart wasn’t beating, even though the brain typically shuts down within 20-30 seconds after the heart has stopped. This is significant, since it has often been assumed that experiences in relation to death are likely hallucinations or illusions, occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted."
bomgeography wrote:Is this false? Who making false claims now.
"The results revealed that 40% of those who survived a cardiac arrest were aware during the time that they were clinically dead and before their hearts were restarted. Dr. Parnia, in the interview stated: “The evidence thus far suggests that in the first few minutes after death, consciousness is not annihilated. Whether it fades away afterwards, we do not know, but right after death, consciousness is not lost. We know the brain can’t function when the heart has stopped beating. But in this case conscious awareness appears to have continued for up to three minutes into the period when the heart wasn’t beating, even though the brain typically shuts down within 20-30 seconds after the heart has stopped. This is significant, since it has often been assumed that experiences in relation to death are likely hallucinations or illusions, occurring either before the heart stops or after the heart has been successfully restarted."
This is typical of you. You misrepresent what is written, ignore what others try to explain to you and then begin posting the same thing over and over as if that makes it what you want it to be. It is this same type of behavior from you that got you banned from someone else's blog recently. And if you are accusing me of making false claims, I'm still waiting for you to apologize for your claim that I hate America and for the lie you fabricated about my avatar.
