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LittleNipper wrote:I didn't make up anything. As one reads Acts, one must see that the individual loved Jesus very deeply. That is not what I get from the Book of Mormon. The Bible is that only book that promises eternal salvation and a Savior who is also GOD.


The Book of Mormon promises those things too. :wink:
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Maksutov wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:I didn't make up anything. As one reads Acts, one must see that the individual loved Jesus very deeply. That is not what I get from the Book of Mormon. The Bible is that only book that promises eternal salvation and a Savior who is also GOD.


The Book of Mormon promises those things too. :wink:
According to the Book of Mormon, what must one do to be saved?
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LittleNipper wrote:
Maksutov wrote:
The Book of Mormon promises those things too. :wink:
According to the Book of Mormon, what must one do to be saved?


No, no, you're approaching this wrong. First you have to confirm by the Holy Spirit that the Book of Mormon is true. Then you can start beginning to understand it. :lol: It's just like the Bible but includes America. Think of it as a patch on the old software that didn't quite fix all the problems. :wink:
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Who wrote the Book of Acts, Nipper?


Both Catholic.org and the LDS Bible Dictionary state that Luke wrote the Book of Acts.

Luke, the writer of the Gospel and the Acts of the Apostles, has been identified with St. Paul's "Luke, the beloved physician" (Colossians 4:14). We know few other facts about Luke's life from Scripture and from early Church historians.


http://www.catholic.org/saints/saint.php?saint_id=76



Mentioned three times in the N.T. (Col. 4: 14; 2 Tim. 4: 11; Philem. 1: 24). He was also the writer of the third Gospel and of the Acts. In all passages in the latter book in which the first person plural is used (e.g., Acts 16: 10), we can assume that Luke was Paul’s fellow-traveler. He was born of gentile parents, and practiced medicine. He may have become a believer before our Lord’s ascension, but there is no evidence of this.


http://classic.scriptures.LDS.org/en/bd/l/44




From Wikipedia:

If one accepts that Luke was in fact the author of the Gospel bearing his name and also the Acts of the Apostles, certain details of his personal life can be reasonably assumed. While he does exclude himself from those who were eyewitnesses to Jesus' ministry, he repeatedly uses the word "we" in describing the Pauline missions in Acts of the Apostles, indicating that he was personally there at those times.[10]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luke_the_Evangelist



And there is this:

Author: The Book of Acts does not specifically identify its author. From Luke 1:1-4 and Acts 1:1-3, it is clear that the same author wrote both Luke and Acts. The tradition from the earliest days of the church has been that Luke, a companion of the apostle Paul, wrote both Luke and Acts (Colossians 4:14; 2 Timothy 4:11).


https://www.gotquestions.org/Book-of-Acts.html
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Maksutov wrote:
LittleNipper wrote: According to the Book of Mormon, what must one do to be saved?


No, no, you're approaching this wrong. First you have to confirm by the Holy Spirit that the Book of Mormon is true. Then you can start beginning to understand it. :lol: It's just like the Bible but includes America. Think of it as a patch on the old software that didn't quite fix all the problems. :wink:

Jesus was asked, "What must one do to be saved." Jesus didn't go into any long dissertation with regard to accepting the Bible as true. Jesus did explain salvation. Mormons promote a book. Jesus never did that.
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LittleNipper wrote:
Maksutov wrote:
No, no, you're approaching this wrong. First you have to confirm by the Holy Spirit that the Book of Mormon is true. Then you can start beginning to understand it. :lol: It's just like the Bible but includes America. Think of it as a patch on the old software that didn't quite fix all the problems. :wink:

Jesus was asked, "What must one do to be saved." Jesus didn't go into any long dissertation with regard to accepting the Bible as true. Jesus did explain salvation. Mormons promote a book. Jesus never did that.


You're here promoting a book. And of course you avoided the issues again.

The problem is you have to believe the book first in order to believe the book. True of the Bible. True of the Q'ran. True of the Book of Mormon.

And the books have created more division, not produced peace or enlightenment or salvation. That's why there are so many cults and sects and warring factions among them all. Each one trying to push the others around with their imaginary friend to back them up. :lol:

Here are some folks who have managed to get very rich off of pushing the Bible. You can judge for yourself whether they emulate Jesus or not. But they know their Bible.... :lol:

http://www.inplainsite.org/html/tele-ev ... tyles.html
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorshi ... %80%93Acts

Interesting that there is controversy about the Luke authorship, and Bart Ehrman even considers Acts a forgery.
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Maksutov wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_Luke%E2%80%93Acts

Interesting that there is controversy about the Luke authorship, and Bart Ehrman even considers Acts a forgery.
The guy is from Princeton. Sorry, I would never accept anyones opinion from Princeton. It is a very liberal school that imagines it is conservative. This guy is not even a Christian in the Biblical sense.
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LittleNipper wrote:
Maksutov wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_Luke%E2%80%93Acts

Interesting that there is controversy about the Luke authorship, and Bart Ehrman even considers Acts a forgery.
The guy is from Princeton. Sorry, I would never accept anyones opinion from Princeton. It is a very liberal school that imagines it is conservative. This guy is not even a Christian in the Biblical sense.


So Oral Roberts, Bob Jones, Liberty and that creationist trailer university are okay but not Princeton? Got it. :wink:
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LittleNipper wrote:
Maksutov wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorship_of_Luke%E2%80%93Acts

Interesting that there is controversy about the Luke authorship, and Bart Ehrman even considers Acts a forgery.
The guy is from Princeton. Sorry, I would never accept anyones opinion from Princeton. It is a very liberal school that imagines it is conservative. This guy is not even a Christian in the Biblical sense.


from Wikipedia,
"He began studying the Bible and the Biblical languages at Moody Bible Institute, where he earned the school's three-year diploma in 1976.[1] He is a 1978 graduate of Wheaton College in Illinois, where he received his bachelor's degree. He received his PhD and M.Div. from Princeton Theological Seminary, where he studied under Bruce Metzger. He received magna cum laude for both his BA in 1978 and PhD in 1985.[2]"

Nipper, which do you think makes him untrustworthy , Moody Bible institute or studying with Bruce Metzger? do you know anything about it?

I do not agree with his assessment of Luke but I respect Metzger.I also respect becoming educated. Ignorance may be something people are all stuck with some of but it is not a prize to be protected.
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