Maksutov wrote:So you get to decide who is a Christian?
A ChristIAN is not someone who does not believe in Christ! Even a moron understands that much!
no, littlenipper decides who is not a christian, with imperfect usage a double negation
as he is the only christian of the world, it is understandable even a non-native-english conceives this...
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Choyo Chagas is Chairman of the Big Four, the ruler of the planet from "The Bull's Hour" ( Russian: Час Быка), a social science fiction novel written by Soviet author and paleontologist Ivan Yefremov in 1968. Six months after its publication Soviet authorities banned the book and attempted to remove it from libraries and bookshops.
LittleNipper wrote:[ A ChristIAN is not someone who does not believe in Christ! Even a moron understands that much!
no, littlenipper decides who is not a christian, with imperfect usage a double negation
as he is the only christian of the world, it is understandable even a non-native-english conceives this...
I cannot say that I do not disagree with you. (This quote by Groucho Marx is a triple negative. If you follow it through logically, you'll find it means I disagree with you --- and he was Jewish)
So, I am correct --- a person who does not believe in Christ cannot be a Christian.
Masters, treat your slaves justly and equally. Remember that you too have a Heavenly Master.
Consistently pray, attentively and with thanks.
Include prayer for us, too, that God may open a door for us to proclaim the message regarding the secret of the Messiah — for that is why I'm imprison.
And pray that I may speak, as I should, in a way that makes the message understandable.
Behave wisely toward the unsaved, making full use of every opportunity —
let your conversation always be gracious and interesting, so that you will know how to respond to any particular individual.
Our dear brother Tychicus (who is a faithful worker and fellow-slave in the Lord) will give you all the news regarding me.
I sent him to you for this very reason — so that you might know how we are, and encourage you.
I have sent him with Onesimus (the dear and faithful brother) who is one of you; they will explain to you everything that has occurred here.
Aristarchus (my fellow prisoner) sends greetings, as does Mark (Bar-Nabba’s cousin) concerning whom you have received instructions — if he comes to you, welcome him.
Jesus (the one known as Justus) also sends greetings. These 3 are among the Circumcised; and among my co-workers for the Kingdom of God, only they have turned out to be a comfort to me.
Epaphras sends his regards (being one of you) --- a slave of the Messiah Jesus who always agonizes in his prayer on your behalf, praying that you may stand firm, mature and fully confident, as you devote yourselves completely to God’s will.
For I can testify to him that he works hard for you and for those in Laodicea and Hierapolis.
Our dear friend Luke, the doctor, and Demas say Hello!
Give my greetings to the brethren in Laodicea, also to Nympha and the congregation that meets in her home.
After this letter has been read to you, have it read also in the congregation of the Laodiceans; and you, in turn, are to read the letter that will come from Laodicea.
And remind Archippus, “See that you complete the task you were given in the Lord.”
I wrote this greeting write with my own hand --- Paul
Remember my imprisonment!
Grace be with you!
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 The masters! that which is righteous and equal to the servants give ye, having known that ye also have a Master in the heavens.
2 In the prayer continue ye, watching in it in thanksgiving;
3 praying at the same time also for us, that God may open to us a door for the word, to speak the secret of the Christ, because of which also I have been bound,
4 that I may manifest it, as it behoveth me to speak;
5 in wisdom walk ye toward those without, the time forestalling;
6 your word always in grace -- with salt being seasoned -- to know how it behoveth you to answer each one.
7 All the things concerning me make known to you shall Tychicus -- the beloved brother, and faithful ministrant, and fellow-servant in the Lord --
8 whom I did send unto you for this very thing, that he might know the things concerning you, and might comfort your hearts,
9 with Onesimus the faithful and beloved brother, who is of you; all things to you shall they make known that [are] here.
10 Salute you doth Aristarchus, my fellow-captive, and Marcus, the nephew of Barnabas, (concerning whom ye did receive commands -- if he may come unto you receive him,)
11 and Jesus who is called Justus, who are of the circumcision: these only [are] fellow-workers for the reign of God who did become a comfort to me.
12 Salute you doth Epaphras, who [is] of you, a servant of Christ, always striving for you in the prayers, that ye may stand perfect and made full in all the will of God,
13 for I do testify to him, that he hath much zeal for you, and those in Laodicea, and those in Hierapolis.
14 Salute you doth Lukas, the beloved physician, and Demas;
15 salute ye those in Laodicea -- brethren, and Nymphas, and the assembly in his house;
16 and when the epistle may be read with you, cause that also in the assembly of the Laodiceans it may be read, and the [epistle] from Laodicea that ye also may read;
17 and say to Archippus, `See to the ministration that thou didst receive in the Lord, that thou mayest fulfil it.'
18 The salutation by the hand of me, Paul; remember my bonds; the grace [is] with you. Amen.
LittleNipper wrote: I cannot say that I do not disagree with you. (This quote by Groucho Marx is a triple negative. If you follow it through logically, you'll find it means I disagree with you --- and he was Jewish)
So, I am correct --- a person who does not believe in Christ cannot be a Christian.
Sorry, still wrong. Still ignoring millions of Christians because you disagree with them. They get to have different beliefs about Christ than you do and still be Christians. Because it's Christianity, not Nipperism. None of you control it. It's emergent or, if you like, transcendent of the petty divisions of who is in and who is out, who is the true believer and who is the apostate. It's a little bigger than any one believer. Or are you the only one who counts?
LittleNipper wrote: I cannot say that I do not disagree with you. (This quote by Groucho Marx is a triple negative. If you follow it through logically, you'll find it means I disagree with you --- and he was Jewish)
So, I am correct --- a person who does not believe in Christ cannot be a Christian.
Sorry, still wrong. Still ignoring millions of Christians because you disagree with them. They get to have different beliefs about Christ than you do and still be Christians. Because it's Christianity, not Nipperism. None of you control it. It's emergent or, if you like, transcendent of the petty divisions of who is in and who is out, who is the true believer and who is the apostate. It's a little bigger than any one believer. Or are you the only one who counts?
Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate because the gate and road that lead to destruction are wide. Many enter through the wide gate.
John 10:10 "I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I Am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but through Me.
Maksutov wrote: Sorry, still wrong. Still ignoring millions of Christians because you disagree with them. They get to have different beliefs about Christ than you do and still be Christians. Because it's Christianity, not Nipperism. None of you control it. It's emergent or, if you like, transcendent of the petty divisions of who is in and who is out, who is the true believer and who is the apostate. It's a little bigger than any one believer. Or are you the only one who counts?
Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate because the gate and road that lead to destruction are wide. Many enter through the wide gate.
John 10:10 "I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I Am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but through Me.
Very nice. I knew you could cut and paste Bible verses, though.
LittleNipper wrote:Matthew 7:13 "Enter through the narrow gate because the gate and road that lead to destruction are wide. Many enter through the wide gate.
John 10:10 "I am the door; if anyone enters through Me, he will be saved, and will go in and out and find pasture.
John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I Am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but through Me.
Very nice. I knew you could cut and paste Bible verses, though.
But are you reading what they say? EXPLANATION: NO Jesus NO HEAVEN! The King James Bible was written in 5th grade English (I learned this fact in a New Jersey public school in the 4th grade nevertheless). One doesn't have to be a Rocket Scientist to understand most of it, and the stuff that is difficult has NOTHING to do with S A L V A T I O N! If you do n't believe that Jesus is the only being through which salvation can come, then you are not a Christian. It doesn't take a PhD to figure it out. It takes the enlightenment of the Comforter and not a college/university degree.
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Maksutov wrote: Very nice. I knew you could cut and paste Bible verses, though.
But are you reading what they say. EXPLANATION: NO Jesus NO HEAVEN! The King James Bible was written in 5th grade English (I learned this fact in public school in the 4th grade). One doesn't have to be a Rocket Scientist to understand most of it, and the stuff that is difficult has NOTHING to do with S A L A V A T I O N!
I have no problem reading what they say. You still aren't addressing the issue of who owns the Bible and who owns Jesus. I really don't think it has anything to do with saliva, either. Although that is one of the symptoms of rabies...you might want to find a doctor. Not a faith healer, by the way.
LittleNipper wrote:But are you reading what they say. EXPLANATION: NO Jesus NO HEAVEN! The King James Bible was written in 5th grade English (I learned this fact in public school in the 4th grade). One doesn't have to be a Rocket Scientist to understand most of it, and the stuff that is difficult has NOTHING to do with S A L V A T I O N!
I have no problem reading what they say. You still aren't addressing the issue of who owns the Bible and who owns Jesus. I really don't think it has anything to do with saliva, either. Although that is one of the symptoms of rabies...you might want to find a doctor. Not a faith healer, by the way.
For the wisdom of this world is nonsense to God, for it is written: “He has seized the wise in their craftiness.” The Bible is called the word of God. The Bible belongs to GOD and interpretation is from the Holy Spirit.
