What did the Nazis have to do with discrediting the Bible? You think that's what Mein Kampf was about?
Check this out:
The population of Germany in 1933 was around 60 million. Almost all Germans were Christian, belonging either to the Roman Catholic (ca. 20 million members) or the Protestant (ca. 40 million members) churches. The Jewish community in Germany in 1933 was less than 1% of the total population of the country.
These people were Bible followers, not out to attack it.
Do you understand what "coherent" means?
So you're clueless about the 20th century but understand late bronze and early iron age civilizations? And can dismiss 95% of modern science based on your vast knowledge?
The Nazis were out to destroy the Jews. If they accomplished that feat, they would have voided the prophetic message surrounding the rebirth of the nation of Israel, and that would have discredited the Bible. So in reality you do not see the coherency of the Bible. You have no clue about Bible prophecy and the Jews. Frankly, you don't understand what was at stake with regard to Hitler's final solution. You don't understand that GOD never voided His promise to Abraham and the nation of Israel. GOD never intended to replace Israel with the Church (the body of ALL Believers). The Church was grafted onto Israel and not visa versa. The Lutheran church and the Catholic church believe that they totally replace Israel. GOD intended to make Israel jealous with the CHURCH and eventually brings Israel back into His fold during the TRIBULATION!
So we went to war against them because they would have discredited the Bible. But they believed in the Bible. And we had plenty of folks like Charles Lindbergh here in America, conservative Christians, who were sympathetic to the Germans. Ever hear of the German American Bund? What about the Silver Shirts? I thought not.
What was at stake was the lives of millions of people throughout the world. Not something in the Bible. The German Christians justified themselves with the same Bible. The North and South in the Civil War both claimed the Bible. The Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland both claim the Bible. It does not bring peace. Jesus himself said he came to bring a sword. The Bible is a bundle of stories that men exploit against each other and sometimes find consolation and guidance in. They were written by men for men. It's narcissism and delusion to consider them more than that. It's childish and irrational. Let them be what they were: products of a time and place that we can learn from but we do not need to worship. Militant Christians have turned them into weapons. That is ugly and dangerous.
If Abraham is so important, don't forget other offspring of Abraham, the Muslims. Did you know that Muhammad flew on a winged horse from Mecca to Jerusalem and back?
LittleNipper wrote:Maksutov, the Germans ---- as most of Europe are "Christian" just like yourself!
Try to focus, Nipper.
We also had a great tradition of Christians promoting slavery and Christians against slavery in this country. They used the same Bible to justify their positions and to justify killing each other. Just like the Sunni and Shi'a Muslims use the Q'ran to justify their endless wars on each other. So don't count on holy books to ensure morality or peace. History shows otherwise.
LittleNipper wrote:Maksutov, the Germans ---- as most of Europe are "Christian" just like yourself!
Try to focus, Nipper.
We also had a great tradition of Christians promoting slavery and Christians against slavery in this country. They used the same Bible to justify their positions and to justify killing each other. Just like the Sunni and Shi'a Muslims use the Q'ran to justify their endless wars on each other. So don't count on holy books to ensure morality or peace. History shows otherwise.
Likewise, wives, submit to your husbands; so that even if some of them do not believe the Word, they will be won over through your behavior, without your saying a word,
as they see your respectful and pure behavior.
Your beauty should not hinge in externals such as fancy hairstyles, gold jewelry or your apparel.
Rather, let it be the inner character of your heart, with the untarnished quality of a gentle and quiet spirit. In God’s sight this is of great value.
This is how the holy women of the past who put their hope in God used to adorn themselves and submit to their husbands---
The way Sarah obeyed Abraham, honoring him as her lord. You are her daughters if you do what is right and do not succumb to fear.
Husbands, likewise, conduct your married lives with understanding. Although your wife might be weaker physically, you should respect her as a fellow-heir of the gift of Life. If you don’t, your prayers will be stiffled.
Finally, all of you, be one in mind and feeling; love as brothers; and be compassionate and humble-minded.
Don't repaying evil with evil or insult with insult, but, on the contrary, with blessing. For it is to this that you have been called, so that you may receive a blessing.
For “Whoever wants to love life and see good days must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit.
Turn from evil and do good --- seek peace and chase after it.
For The Lord keeps His eyes on the righteous, and His ears open to their prayers; but the face of the Lord is against those who do evil things.”
For who will hurt you if you become zealots for what is good?
But even if you do suffer for being righteous, you are blessed! Additionally, don’t fear what they fear or be disturbed,
but treat the Messiah as holy, as Lord in your hearts; while remaining always ready to give a well thoughtout answer to anyone who asks you to explain the hope you have iwithin you — yet with humility and fear,
keeping your conscience clear, so that when you are spoken against, those who abuse the good behavior flowing from your union with the Messiah may be shamed.
For if God has in fact willed that you should suffer, it is better that you suffer for doing what is good than for doing what is evil.
For the Messiah Himself died for sins, once and for everyone (a righteous person on behalf of unrighteous people) so that He might perhaps bring you to God. He was put to death in the flesh but brought to life by the Spirit;
and in this form He traveled and made a proclamation to the imprisoned spirits,
Meaning to those who were disobedient long ago, in the days of Noah, while God waited patiently during the building of the ark, in which a few people — specifically, 8 — were delivered by means of water.
and this water symbolizes the baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
He went to heaven and is at the right hand of God, with angels, authorities and powers subject to Him.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 In like manner, the wives, be ye subject to your own husbands, that even if certain are disobedient to the word, through the conversation of the wives, without the word, they may be won,
2 having beheld your pure behaviour in fear,
3 whose adorning -- let it not be that which is outward, of plaiting of hair, and of putting around of things of gold, or of putting on of garments,
4 but -- the hidden man of the heart, in the incorruptible thing of the meek and quiet spirit, which is, before God, of great price,
5 for thus once also the holy women who did hope on God, were adorning themselves, being subject to their own husbands,
6 as Sarah was obedient to Abraham, calling him `sir,' of whom ye did become daughters, doing good, and not fearing any terror.
7 The husbands, in like manner, dwelling with [them], according to knowledge, as to a weaker vessel -- to the wife -- imparting honour, as also being heirs together of the grace of life, that your prayers be not hindered.
8 And finally, being all of one mind, having fellow-feeling, loving as brethren, compassionate, courteous,
9 not giving back evil for evil, or railing for railing, and on the contrary, blessing, having known that to this ye were called, that a blessing ye may inherit;
10 for `he who is willing to love life, and to see good days, let him guard his tongue from evil, and his lips -- not to speak guile;
11 let him turn aside from evil, and do good, let him seek peace and pursue it;
12 because the eyes of the Lord [are] upon the righteous, and His ears -- to their supplication, and the face of the Lord [is] upon those doing evil;'
13 and who [is] he who will be doing you evil, if of Him who is good ye may become imitators?
14 but if ye also should suffer because of righteousness, happy [are ye]! and of their fear be not afraid, nor be troubled,
15 and the Lord God sanctify in your hearts. And [be] ready always for defence to every one who is asking of you an account concerning the hope that [is] in you, with meekness and fear;
16 having a good conscience, that in that in which they speak against you as evil-doers, they may be ashamed who are traducing your good behaviour in Christ;
17 for [it is] better doing good, if the will of God will it, to suffer, than doing evil;
18 because also Christ once for sin did suffer -- righteous for unrighteous -- that he might lead us to God, having been put to death indeed, in the flesh, and having been made alive in the spirit,
19 in which also to the spirits in prison having gone he did preach,
20 who sometime disbelieved, when once the long-suffering of God did wait, in days of Noah -- an ark being preparing -- in which few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water;
21 also to which an antitype doth now save us -- baptism, (not a putting away of the filth of flesh, but the question of a good conscience in regard to God,) through the rising again of Jesus Christ,
22 who is at the right hand of God, having gone on to heaven -- messengers, and authorities, and powers, having been subjected to him.
The authorship of 1 Peter has traditionally been attributed to the Apostle Peter because it bears his name and identifies him as its author (1:1). Although the text identifies Peter as its author, the language, dating, style, and structure of this letter have led many scholars to conclude that this letter is pseudonymous. Many scholars are convinced that Peter was not the author of this letter because the author had to have a formal education in rhetoric/philosophy and an advanced knowledge of the Greek language.[1]
Graham Stanton rejects Petrine authorship because 1 Peter was most likely written during the reign of Domitian in AD 81, which is when he believes widespread Christian persecution began, which is long after the death of Peter.[2] Current scholarship has abandoned the persecution argument because the described persecution within the work does not necessitate a time period outside of the period of Peter.[3] Many scholars also doubt Petrine authorship because they are convinced that 1 Peter is dependent on the Pauline epistles and thus was written after Paul the Apostle’s ministry because it shares many of the same motifs espoused in Ephesians, Colossians, and the Pastoral Epistles.[4] Others argue that it makes little sense to ascribe the work to Peter when it could have been ascribed to Paul.[3] One theory used to support Petrine authorship of 1 Peter is the "secretarial hypothesis", which suggests that 1 Peter was dictated by Peter and was written in Greek by his secretary, Silvanus (5:12). John Elliot, however, suggests that the notion of Silvanus as secretary or author or drafter of 1 Peter represents little more than a counsel of despair and introduces more problems than it solves because the Greek rendition of 5:12 suggests that Silvanus was not the secretary, but the courier/bearer of 1 Peter,[5] and some see Mark as a contributive amanuensis in the composition and writing of the work.[6][7] On the one hand, some scholars such as Bart D. Ehrman[8] are convinced that the language, dating, literary style, and structure of this text makes it implausible to conclude that 1 Peter was written by Peter; according to these scholars, it is more likely that 1 Peter is a pseudonymous letter, written later by one of the disciples of Peter in his honor. On the other hand, some scholars argue that there is not enough evidence to conclude that Peter did not write 1 Peter. For instance, there are similarities between 1 Peter and Peter's speeches in the Biblical book of Acts,[9] and the earliest attestation of Peter's authorship comes from 2 Peter (AD 60–160)[10] and the letters of Clement (AD 70-140).[3] Ultimately, the authorship of 1 Peter remains contested.
Therefore, since the Messiah suffered physically, you too are to arm yourselves with the same attitude. For He suffered physically to make an end to sin
with the result that a saved life is no longer controlled by human desires, but by God’s will.
For you have spent enough time already living the way the pagans want you to live — in debauchery, lust, drunkenness, orgies, wild parties and forbidden idol-worship.
They think it odd that you don’t plunge with them into the same flood of unrestrained immorality, and so they insult you.
But they will have to give an account to Him who stands ready to judge the living and the dead.
This is why He was proclaimed to those who have died; it was so that, although physically they would receive the judgment common to all humanity, they might live by the Spirit in the way that God has provided.
The accomplishing of the goal of all things is close at hand. Therefore, keep alert and be self-controlled, so that you can pray.
More than anything, keep loving each other actively; because love covers many sins.
Welcome one another into your homes without grumbling.
As each one has received some spiritual gift, he should use it in serving others, like good managers of God’s complex grace —
if someone speaks, let him speak God’s words; if someone serves, let him do so with the strength that God supplies; so that in everything God may be glorified through Jesus the Messiah — to him be glory and power eternally. So be it.
Dear friends, don’t regard as strange the fiery ordeal happening about you to test you, as if something extraordinary were happening to you.
Rather, to the extent that you share the fellowship of the Messiah’s sufferings, rejoice; so that you will rejoice even more when His glory is revealed.
If you are being insulted because you bear the name of the Messiah, how blessed you are! For the Spirit of the Glory, that is, the Spirit of God, is resting on you!
Let none of you suffer for being a murderer or a thief or an evildoer or a meddler in other people’s affairs.
But if anyone suffers for being Messianic, let him not be ashamed; but let him bring glory to God by the way he bears this name.
For the time has come for the judgment to begin. It begins with the household of God; and if it starts with us, what will the outcome be for those who are disobeying God’s Good News? —
“If the righteous is barely saved, where will the ungodly and sinful end up?”
So let those who are suffering according to God’s will entrust themselves to a faithful Creator by continuing to do what is good.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 Christ, then, having suffered for us in the flesh, ye also with the same mind arm yourselves, because he who did suffer in the flesh hath done with sin,
2 no more in the desires of men, but in the will of God, to live the rest of the time in the flesh;
3 for sufficient to us [is] the past time of life the will of the nations to have wrought, having walked in lasciviousnesses, desires, excesses of wines, revelings, drinking-bouts, and unlawful idolatries,
4 in which they think it strange -- your not running with them to the same excess of dissoluteness, speaking evil,
5 who shall give an account to Him who is ready to judge living and dead,
6 for for this also to dead men was good news proclaimed, that they may be judged, indeed, according to men in the flesh, and may live according to God in the spirit.
7 And of all things the end hath come nigh; be sober-minded, then, and watch unto the prayers,
8 and, before all things, to one another having the earnest love, because the love shall cover a multitude of sins;
9 hospitable to one another, without murmuring;
10 each, according as he received a gift, to one another ministering it, as good stewards of the manifold grace of God;
11 if any one doth speak -- `as oracles of God;' if any one doth minister -- `as of the ability which God doth supply;' that in all things God may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom is the glory and the power -- to the ages of the ages. Amen.
12 Beloved, think it not strange at the fiery suffering among you that is coming to try you, as if a strange thing were happening to you,
13 but, according as ye have fellowship with the sufferings of the Christ, rejoice ye, that also in the revelation of his glory ye may rejoice -- exulting;
14 if ye be reproached in the name of Christ -- happy [are ye], because the Spirit of glory and of God upon you doth rest; in regard, indeed, to them, he is evil-spoken of, and in regard to you, he is glorified;
15 for let none of you suffer as a murderer, or thief, or evil-doer, or as an inspector into other men's matters;
16 and if as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; and let him glorify God in this respect;
17 because it is the time of the beginning of the judgment from the house of God, and if first from us, what the end of those disobedient to the good news of God?
18 And if the righteous man is scarcely saved, the ungodly and sinner -- where shall he appear?
19 so that also those suffering according to the will of god, as to a stedfast Creator, let them commit their own souls in good doing.
Therefore, I urge the congregation leaders among you, as a fellow-leader who witnessed the Messiah’s sufferings, as well as a sharer in the glory to be revealed:
shepherd the flock of God that is in your care, exercising oversight not grudgingly, but willingly, as God desires; and not out of a desire for dishonest gain, but with enthusiasm;
also not as big whigs domineering over those in your care, but as people who become examples to the flock.
So, when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive glory as your untarnishing crown.
Likewise, you who are less experienced, submit to leaders. Further, all of you should clothe yourselves in humility toward one another, because
God opposes the arrogant, but to the humble He provides grace.
Therefore, humble yourselves under the mighty hand of God, so that at the right time He may lift you up.
Cast all your anxieties upon Him, because He cares about you.
Stay sober, stay alert! Your enemy, Satan,prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to eat.
Stand against him, firm in your faith, knowing that your brethren throughout the world are going through the same kinds of suffering.
You will have to suffer only a short time; after that, God, who is full of grace, the one who called you to His eternal glory in union with the Messiah, will Himself restore, establish and strengthen you and make you solid.
To Him be the power forever and ever. So be it.
Through Silvanus, whom I consider a faithful brother, I have written you a short letter, encouraging you and giving my witness that this is God’s true grace. Stand firm in it!
Your sister congregation in Babylon, chosen along with you, sends its regards, as does my son Mark.
Greet each other with a kiss of love!” Peace to all belonging to the Messiah.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 Elders who [are] among you, I exhort, who [am] a fellow-elder, and a witness of the sufferings of the Christ, and of the glory about to be revealed a partaker,
2 feed the flock of God that [is] among you, overseeing not constrainedly, but willingly, neither for filthy lucre, but of a ready mind,
3 neither as exercising lordship over the heritages, but patterns becoming of the flock,
4 and at the manifestation of the chief Shepherd, ye shall receive the unfading crown of glory.
5 In like manner, ye younger, be subject to elders, and all to one another subjecting yourselves; with humble-mindedness clothe yourselves, because God the proud doth resist, but to the humble He doth give grace;
6 be humbled, then, under the powerful hand of God, that you He may exalt in good time,
7 all your care having cast upon Him, because He careth for you.
8 Be sober, vigilant, because your opponent the devil, as a roaring lion, doth walk about, seeking whom he may swallow up,
9 whom resist, stedfast in the faith, having known the same sufferings to your brotherhood in the world to be accomplished.
10 And the God of all grace, who did call you to His age-during glory in Christ Jesus, having suffered a little, Himself make you perfect, establish, strengthen, settle [you];
11 to Him [is] the glory, and the power -- to the ages and the ages! Amen.
12 Through Silvanus, to you the faithful brother, as I reckon, through few [words] I did write, exhorting and testifying this to be the true grace of God in which ye have stood.
13 Salute you doth the [assembly] in Babylon jointly elected, and Markus my son.
14 Salute ye one another in a kiss of love; peace to you all who [are] in Christ Jesus! Amen.
From: Simon Peter, a slave and apostle of Jesus the Messiah
To: Those who, through the righteousness of our God and of our Deliverer Jesus the Messiah, have been given the same kind of trust as ours:
May grace and peace be yours full to the brim, as you come to a full knowledge of God and Jesus our Lord.
God’s power has given us everything we need for life and godliness, through our knowing the One who called us to His own glory and goodness.
By these He has given us valuable and super fantastic promises, so that through them you might come to share in God’s nature and escape the corruption which evil desires have brought into the world.
For this very reason, try your hardest to supply your faith with goodness, goodness with knowledge,
knowledge with self-control, self-control with perseverance, perseverance with godliness,
godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love.
For if you possess these qualities in abundance, they keep you from being barren and unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus the Messiah.
Indeed, whoever lacks them is blind, so shortsighted that he forgets that his former sins have been washed away.
Therefore, brethren, try even harder to make your being called and chosen an absolute. For if you continue doing this, you will not stumble.
In this way you will be generously supplied with everything you need to enter the eternal Kingdom of our Lord and Deliverer, Jesus the Messiah.
For this reason, I will always remind you concerning these things, even though you know them and are firmly established in the truth already.
And I consider it right to keep reviving you with reminders, as long as I am housed in this body.
I know that I will soon lay aside this tent of mine, as our Lord Jesus the Messiah has made clear to me.
And I will do my best to see that after my exodus, you will be able to remember these things at all times.
For when we have revealed to you the power and the coming of our Lord Jesus the Messiah, we did not rely on cunningly contrived myths. Quite the contrary, we witnessed His majesty with our own eyes.
For we were present when Jesus received honor and glory from God the Father; and the voice came to Him from the grandeur of glory, saying, “This is my son, whom I love; I am very pleased with Him!”
We heard this voice come from heaven when we were with Him upon the holy mountain.
Yes, we have the prophetic Word made absolute. You will do well to pay attention to it as to a light gleaming in a dark, murky place, until the Day dawns and the Morning Star rises in your hearts.
Firstly, understand this: no prophecy of Scripture is to be interpreted by an individual by himself;
for never has a prophecy arrived as a result of human desire — quite the contrary, people moved by the Holy Spirit revealed a message from God.
Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
1 Simeon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to those who did obtain a like precious faith with us in the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ:
2 Grace to you, and peace be multiplied in the acknowledgement of God and of Jesus our Lord!
3 As all things to us His divine power (the things pertaining unto life and piety) hath given, through the acknowledgement of him who did call us through glory and worthiness,
4 through which to us the most great and precious promises have been given, that through these ye may become partakers of a divine nature, having escaped from the corruption in the world in desires.
5 And this same also -- all diligence having brought in besides, superadd in your faith the worthiness, and in the worthiness the knowledge,
6 and in the knowledge the temperance, and in the temperance the endurance, and in the endurance the piety,
7 and in the piety the brotherly kindness, and in the brotherly kindness the love;
8 for these things being to you and abounding, do make [you] neither inert nor unfruitful in regard to the acknowledging of our Lord Jesus Christ,
9 for he with whom these things are not present is blind, dim-sighted, having become forgetful of the cleansing of his old sins;
10 wherefore, the rather, brethren, be diligent to make stedfast your calling and choice, for these things doing, ye may never stumble,
11 for so, richly shall be superadded to you the entrance into the age-during reign of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
12 Wherefore, I will not be careless always to remind you concerning these things, though, having known them, and having been established in the present truth,
13 and I think right, so long as I am in this tabernacle, to stir you up in reminding [you],
14 having known that soon is the laying aside of my tabernacle, even as also our Lord Jesus Christ did shew to me,
15 and I will be diligent that also at every time ye have, after my outgoing, power to make to yourselves the remembrance of these things.
16 For, skilfully devised fables not having followed out, we did make known to you the power and presence of our Lord Jesus Christ, but eye-witnesses having become of his majesty --
17 for having received from God the Father honour and glory, such a voice being borne to him by the excellent glory: `This is My Son -- the beloved, in whom I was well pleased;'
18 and this voice we -- we did hear, out of heaven borne, being with him in the holy mount.
19 And we have more firm the prophetic word, to which we do well giving heed, as to a lamp shining in a dark place, till day may dawn, and a morning star may arise -- in your hearts;
20 this first knowing, that no prophecy of the Writing doth come of private exposition,
21 for not by will of man did ever prophecy come, but by the Holy Spirit borne on holy men of God spake.
Another book of someone pretending to be someone they are not. Many scholars reject this as written by Peter. From Wikipedia:
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The authorship of the Petrine epistles (First and Second Peter) is an important question in biblical criticism, parallel to that of the authorship of the Pauline epistles, since scholars have long sought to determine who were the exact authors of the New Testament letters. Most scholars today conclude that Saint Peter was not the author of the two epistles that are attributed to him and that they were written by two different authors.[1][2][3]
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Clues in support of pseudepigraphy[edit] Although 2 Peter internally purports to be a work of the apostle, most biblical scholars have concluded that Peter is not the author, and instead consider the epistle pseudepigraphical.[9] Reasons for this include its linguistic differences from 1 Peter, its apparent use of Jude, possible allusions to 2nd-century gnosticism, encouragement in the wake of a delayed parousia, and weak external support.[10] In addition, specific passages offer further clues in support of pseudepigraphy, namely the author's assumption that his audience is familiar with multiple Pauline epistles (2Peter 3:15–16), his implication that the Apostolic generation has passed (2Peter 3:4), and his differentiation between himself and "the apostles of the Lord and Savior"
