Zerinus - Do you believe there was death before Adam's fall?

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Re: Zerinus - Do you believe there was death before Adam's f

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moksha wrote:Zerinus, do you believe that a literal interpretation of the creation story is essential in your own version of the LDS faith? I know it is both unessential in my version and that literalness actually diminishes its worth by adding a needless degree of superstition.

I want a faith that gives me both comfort and meaning without resorting to pretzelized explanations. When I take a leap of faith I want to land in clear warm water rather than on thin ice.

Amen.
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Re: Zerinus - Do you believe there was death before Adam's f

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Sorry to bump an old thread, but I thought this was relevant to it.

If Neanderthals are considered a different species, how is it that humans were able to breed with them?

http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/a ... 02284.html

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/02/ ... ly-thought

Doesn't that present a classification problem?

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Re: Zerinus - Do you believe there was death before Adam's f

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I will channel Zerinus.

The science is wrong.
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Re: Zerinus - Do you believe there was death before Adam's f

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SteelHead wrote:I will channel Zerinus.

The science is wrong.

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Re: Zerinus - Do you believe there was death before Adam's f

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Sorry to bump an old thread, but I thought this was relevant to it.

If Neanderthals are considered a different species, how is it that humans were able to breed with them?

http://www.sci-news.com/othersciences/a ... 02284.html

http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016/02/ ... ly-thought

Doesn't that present a classification problem?

- Doc



I think it presents the same problem as most explanations that try to accept both scripture and science.
For once I agree with McConkie.
"Heresy two concerns itself with the relationship between organic evolution and revealed religion and asks the question whether they can be harmonized."

So I don't try and harmonize them. I figure all truth will be made known eventually. If there is truth in the creation story we will know it. If there is truth in the scientific teachings of evolution etc we will know it.

I have heard members say that Adam was just the first to be a spirit child of God, but that he still had a biological father on the earth. I really dislike that theory and its attempt to harmonize.
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