BOOK OF ABRAHAM FACSIMILE NO. 3?? WEBSITE

[_Jesse Pinkman]

10+1 - The +1 is for the other ear I think was there. If you look closely it seems like a divet exists is where the ear should've been.

- Doc

More shall be revealed. There may have been a second ear.

Really? Interesting. Looking forward to your continued research.

[_Shulem]

There is a fragment of a scroll or the hypocephalus (the head thing on which they placed the head of the embalmed), where a portion was missing and the images were filled or drawn in by someone else. That is to say, they were tampered with.

Smith wasn't afraid to manhandle the Hypocephalus (Facsimile No. 2) and provide wholesale interpretation according to his own liking and understanding of how he saw the papyri vignettes and how he thought it best to reconstruct the missing sections of the Hypocephalus. This is not something the church today likes to discuss. The church doesn't want its members to think about how Joseph Smith rearranged and restored (ultimately TAMPERING) with images and text to say nothing of accidentally placing hieroglyphic characters upside down. You'd think a translator who is interpreting by a Holy Spirit and revealing the true meaning of a lost language would at least be able to set the hieroglyphs in their upright and correct position. It's very disconcerting:



So, even with all of Joseph Smith's divine gifts to translate and notwithstanding the Holy Ghost breathing all over the printing press while the sacred work was underway -- the entire presentation was a flop.

But, lest I digress further from the point I originally wanted to make let me just say this much: Joseph Smith had no qualms with adding or subtracting from the word. He felt he could do whatever he wanted and if he added to the word it was by his own will. If he took away from the word it was by his own will. Smith tampered with everything he ever touched to include biblical verses and other men's wives. He couldn't keep his hands off anything.

So, the point is, Smith was not afraid to take the jackal head away anymore than he was afraid of adding text and images to Facsimile No. 2 for his own aesthetic purposes.

Smith giveth and Smith taketh.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

You're creating a profound case here, Paul. What is compelling is how much these Book of Abraham "translation" flaws impact not only this scripture, but the legitimacy of the Book of Mormon as well.

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

Consig,

If you're reading this, how about having Shulem on your next podcast to discuss this issue?

It would be most interesting.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

Consig,

If you're reading this, how about having Shulem on your next podcast to discuss this issue?

It would be most interesting.

For once, we agree on something. That’s a great idea, if Paul is willing.

[Guest]

You're creating a profound case here, Paul. What is compelling is how much these Book of Abraham "translation" flaws impact not only this scripture, but the legitimacy of the Book of Mormon as well.

Yes, I agree, this case is evolving and taking amazing shape and what's appearing is going to strike fear into the minds of remaining apologists who defend the Book of Abraham. All this is very bad news for them. I would not have wanted to have dealt with this issue when I was an apologist who fully advocated the catalyst theory -- supporting Smith's inspired right to paint and color his story in accordance to the Spirit's direction.

But what to do with all the flaws? That's a problem for the apologists and they have in effect kept a back door open in which to walk away from the Facsimiles once the shelf becomes too heavy to hold up. Take Jeff Lindsay for example. His website contains a statement which actually serves as a disclaimer whereby he said: "But the Facsimiles are not said to be sacred or divinely inspired". Wow, just wow, Lindsay in effect has a bus on standby ready to run over the Facsimiles when the going gets too tough to handle. His final answer is they aren't sacred or inspired so church members aren't obligated to accept them as such.

But wait! Explanations from Facsimile No. 2 declare otherwise and are binding upon the church seeing they have been canonized -- they are revelations and were approved by the First Presidency and vote of the Church in 1880. These things most certainly are considered sacred and inspired. Jeff Lindsay has thrown the prophet under the bus!

Fig. 8. Contains writings that cannot be revealed unto the world; but is to be had in the Holy Temple of God.
Fig. 9. Ought not to be revealed at the present time.

Thus we see that Joseph Smith's translated revelations of things within Facsimile No. 2 are directly associated with the holy temple and therefore require revelation in order to be "revealed". But all this goes over the feeble mind of Jeff Lindsay, a liar for the Lord.

Oh, my, I started this post to make an entirely different point in response to your post. I'll need to make that point in another post.

[_Shulem]

Consig,

If you're reading this, how about having Shulem on your next podcast to discuss this issue?

It would be most interesting.

For once, we agree on something. That’s a great idea, if Paul is willing.

Although my boyfriend would love to see me do something like that I remain reserved at this time. I don't do well in the spotlight and I'm afraid it would be a bit much for me.

[_Shulem]

You're creating a profound case here, Paul. What is compelling is how much these Book of Abraham "translation" flaws impact not only this scripture, but the legitimacy of the Book of Mormon as well.

Yes. Not only is it profound it's mathematical when you consider all the elements of the evidence and just how they add up. Think of it as balancing scales tipping in favor of fraud because of the heavy weight of evidence stacked on one side. The only thing in favor for the opposing side is faith and hope that Joseph Smith was a prophet and so the Book of Abraham is therefore true. Never mind all the evidence that shows he's a fraud because personal testimony of the prophet trumps all. But at some point the scale becomes so heavy you just can't hold it up so the shelf finally collapses on the person trying to hold it up. Hence the apologist is forced to drive the bus and run anything over that threatens his faith.

Then there is another way of looking at it. Think of algebra. Consider the concept of trying to solve a complicated equation using basic laws of math -- working the equation from the inside out. You have to simplify and solve for X. I think this whole thing with the missing jackal snout is very important to a Book of Abraham equation. I see the jackal snout as being an X and solving it proves that Smith's work is a total fraud.

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