Discussion of the ''DCP / plagiarism'' thread

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

JP, what's your opinion?

Is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism as required under the Honor Code DCP signed and agreed to when he became an employee of BYU.

If so when? If not, why?

Also, is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism to the D-News?

If so when? If not, why?

Is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism to Patheos?

If so when? If not, why?

[_Jesse Pinkman]

What's your opinion?

Is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism as required under the Honor Code DCP signed and agreed to when he became an employee of BYU.

If so when? If not, why?

Also, is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism to the D-News?

If so when? If not, why?

Is DCP going to self-report his plagiarism to Patheos?

If so when? If not, why?

Unlike most here, I feel that the plagiarism that has occurred has been unintentional on Dan’s part. Because of that, I don’t think that he needs to self-report as long as he can go over his prior writings and fix any of the areas where he failed to attribute authors. If, for some reason, he can’t get back into an edit mode of his prior writings and make things right, then I think that he would have an obligation to speak with whomever the writing was published with, explain that he needs to credit authors that were not credited previously, and let the chips fall where they may.

[_Lemmie]

...You want me to stay on topic? Encourage others to treat me civilly. Then I’ll comment on the topic instead of personal attacks on me....

If you feel you were personally attacked then report it. It's not my job to babysit you, and the responsibility to get you to post on topic belongs to no one but you.

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Back to the topic:

....[H]e could check all his Deseret News articles (or ask Deseret News to check them for him), check all his blog posts, check everything else he’s published. I mean, whose responsibility is it to check his work if not himself?

[_Lemmie]

I have no idea, Everybody Wang Chung. You have the man’s email address. Why don’t you ask him?

-"Bait." I sort of wonder if this is some kind of Mopologetic "trap." Maybe he's thinking to himself: "Those critics are anonymous cowards! Well, here: I'll give this to them. If they want to ruin me, let them try--here, I'm offering the opportunity right here on a silver platter! But then they'd have to drop the mask of anonymity and report my activities using their real names! And then at last I'll know who they are, and I will at last have my revenge!"

[_Everybody Wang Chung]

Unlike most here, I feel that the plagiarism that has occurred has been unintentional on Dan’s part. Because of that, I don’t think that he needs to self-report as long as he can go over his prior writings and fix any of the areas where he failed to attribute authors.

JP,

Are you disputing that per BYU's Academic Honesty Policy that "inadvertent plagiarism" is considered "academic misconduct" and needs to be reported?

The language in BYU's Academic Honesty Policy couldn't be more clear. I'm just curious about your thoughts on BYU's Academic Honesty Policy which DCP signed and agreed to when he became an employee of BYU.

It sounds like you feel it doesn't apply to DCP?

[_Jesse Pinkman]

...You want me to stay on topic? Encourage others to treat me civilly. Then I’ll comment on the topic instead of personal attacks on me....

If you feel you were personally attacked then report it. It's not my job to babysit you, and the responsibility to get you to post on topic belongs to no one but you.

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Back to the topic:

....[H]e could check all his Deseret News articles (or ask Deseret News to check them for him), check all his blog posts, check everything else he’s published. I mean, whose responsibility is it to check his work if not himself?

Where did I say it was your job to babysit me or ask you to? Who is baiting who here, Lemmie?

[_Jesse Pinkman]

Unlike most here, I feel that the plagiarism that has occurred has been unintentional on Dan’s part. Because of that, I don’t think that he needs to self-report as long as he can go over his prior writings and fix any of the areas where he failed to attribute authors.

JP,

Are you disputing that per BYU's Academic Honesty Policy that "inadvertent plagiarism" is considered "academic misconduct" and needs to be reported?

The language in BYU's Academic Honesty Policy couldn't be more clear. I'm just curious about your thoughts on BYU's Academic Honesty Policy which DCP signed and agreed to when he became an employee of BYU.

It sounds like you feel it doesn't apply to DCP?

What is the exact policy? If you have reference to it, would you mind quoting it? If it was spelled out earlier, this thread is so long, I would appreciate not having to go back over pages to try to find it. I can’t comment one way or the other until I have read it. Thanks.

[_Jesse Pinkman]

I have no idea, Everybody Wang Chung. You have the man’s email address. Why don’t you ask him?

-"Bait." I sort of wonder if this is some kind of Mopologetic "trap." Maybe he's thinking to himself: "Those critics are anonymous cowards! Well, here: I'll give this to them. If they want to ruin me, let them try--here, I'm offering the opportunity right here on a silver platter! But then they'd have to drop the mask of anonymity and report my activities using their real names! And then at last I'll know who they are, and I will at last have my revenge!"

Seriously?

[Guest]

What is the exact policy? If you have reference to it, would you mind quoting it? If it was spelled out earlier, this thread is so long, I would appreciate not having to go back over pages to try to find it. I can’t comment one way or the other until I have read it. Thanks.

JP,

Yes, it has been brought up numerous times. It will literally take you 2 minutes at the most to read:

https://policy.BYU.edu/view/index.php?p=10&s=s50

[_Jesse Pinkman]

...You want me to stay on topic? Encourage others to treat me civilly. Then I’ll comment on the topic instead of personal attacks on me....

If you feel you were personally attacked then report it. It's not my job to babysit you, and the responsibility to get you to post on topic belongs to no one but you.

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Back to the topic:

....[H]e could check all his Deseret News articles (or ask Deseret News to check them for him), check all his blog posts, check everything else he’s published. I mean, whose responsibility is it to check his work if not himself?

Here is my comment on IHAQ’s post here. Where did I say anyone here has a responsibility to check Dan’s work? It seems to me that people here have voluntarily taken it upon themselves to check his work.