Is the Bible Inerrant?

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Re: Is the Bible Inerrant?

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Circular reasoning works!
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LittleNipper wrote:
Amore wrote:Is the Bible is written by fallible human beings like us.

To suggest that they were incapable of error is to have other gods before God, breaking the 1st of the lower, basic commandments.

The Bible was penned by humans but authored by GOD through the Holy Spirit. God makes no mistakes. :ugeek:

You are putting fallible human beings writings up on pedestals as if they were infallible gods.

“Thou shalt have no other gods” - 1st of the basics. Why? Because no matter how ancient, revered, popular or canonized, all human beings are fallible. And really, scriptures or any other idol is not God him/her self, but often symbolize God so so much that they forget God & focus on that which was only meant as a fallible sign to POINT to God.
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If viewed as a sacred allegory, the Bible is as inerrant as the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.
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moksha wrote:If viewed as a sacred allegory, the Bible is as inerrant as the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.


Moksha, my goodness... I don’t think it’s possible to read your posts without a large smile breaking out upon my normally crusty countenance!
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Amore wrote:
LittleNipper wrote:[
The Bible was penned by humans but authored by GOD through the Holy Spirit. God makes no mistakes. :ugeek:

You are putting fallible human beings writings up on pedestals as if they were infallible gods.

“Thou shalt have no other gods” - 1st of the basics. Why? Because no matter how ancient, revered, popular or canonized, all human beings are fallible. And really, scriptures or any other idol is not God him/her self, but often symbolize God so so much that they forget God & focus on that which was only meant as a fallible sign to POINT to God.


The Bible says "Thou shalt have no other gods." However, according to you the Bible was written by man and so is fallible ----- therefore according to you since the Bible is nothing but errors, the verse you quoted is worthless because it was written by man and man makes mistakes and so doesn't have a clue what God has to say regarding other gods...

Now, since I believe the Bible is GOD's words written down by man, I can accept that by other gods, the one true GOD of the Bible is referring to other gods and not what HE himself dictated for our benefit!
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moksha wrote:If viewed as a sacred allegory, the Bible is as inerrant as the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.


Or the Book of Mormon! :rolleyes:
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LittleNipper wrote:
Morley wrote:What's the "holy sea bowl"? What's the "Pi equation" for this "holy sea bowl"? Forgive me, but this looks like gibberish.

http://www.recoveredscience.com/const100solomonpi.htm

This ultimately just makes up numbers to reach the assumed conclusion (i.e. the Bible can't be wrong).

I reckon a bit of begging the claim dressing helps make a circular reasoning salad more palatable.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:

This ultimately just makes up numbers to reach the assumed conclusion (i.e. the Bible can't be wrong).

I reckon a bit of begging the claim dressing helps make a circular reasoning salad more palatable.
You make up excuses to not believe the Bible. So be it. :ugeek:

What Jesus had to say:

52. The Rich Man and Lazarus (Luke 16:14-31)
14 The Pharisees, who loved money, heard all this and were sneering at Jesus. 15 He said to them, “You are the ones who justify yourselves in the eyes of men, but God knows your hearts. What is highly valued among men is detestable in God’s sight. 16 “The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it. 17 It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law. 18 “Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery. 19 “There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. 20 At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores 21 and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 “The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. 24 So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’ 25 “But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. 26 And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been fixed, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’ 27 “He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my father’s house, 28 for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’ 29 “Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’ 30 “‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’ 31 “He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’ “
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I have a comment which could clarify my view of the Bible and might pose a question for this subject.

I believe the Bible is what God wants it to be. It communicates the truth God wants to communicate with it . With the Holy Spirit the Bible is fulfilling the mission God has given it. This statement can be seen as one understanding of inerrant.
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huckelberry wrote:I have a comment which could clarify my view of the Bible and might pose a question for this subject.

I believe the Bible is what God wants it to be. It communicates the truth God wants to communicate with it . With the Holy Spirit the Bible is fulfilling the mission God has given it. This statement can be seen as one understanding of inerrant.


About a year ago my brain became dislodged from the mindset that my traditional beliefs were inevitably true and axiomatic. It has been a jarring yet rewarding transition. With that as context, now I just can't seem to find a reason to weight the Bible with cosmological importance. Clearly human beings yield high social benefit through systems of belief, thus holy books can be completely explained as evolutionary advantageous to peoples, nothing more than that.
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