Is the Bible Inerrant?

[_LittleNipper]

I believe your self deception is causing you to reject the facts that the Bible presents. An honest witness doesn't always tell you everything you wish to know on your terms.

Would an honest witness make up numbers to fit a preformed conclusion?

Asking for a friend.

What numbers were made up?

[Guest]

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[_LittleNipper]

The Bible says "Thou shalt have no other gods." However, according to you the Bible was written by man and so is fallible ----- therefore according to you since the Bible is nothing but errors, the verse you quoted is worthless because it was written by man and man makes mistakes and so doesn't have a clue what God has to say regarding other gods...

Now, since I believe the Bible is GOD's words written down by man, I can accept that by other gods, the one true GOD of the Bible is referring to other gods and not what HE himself dictated for our benefit!

Nice try, but if you take the Bible to be of God, then you accept that 1st basic, lower commandment to not have other gods before God, which includes the Bible as an idol/god.

Personally, I believe there are truths and lies in the Bible, goodness and evil, so as with anything, I sort through it to “find the pearl in the dumpster.”

I don’t mean to be rude - just speaking from my mind and heart. Life is too short to contaminate it with false gods. The Bible is huge! I try to focus on just those scriptures that help me live better. Reading biblical stories of war and incest are like watching the 5:00 bad news - not really helpful... and focusing on negative is not of God, in my opinion.

You maybe mixing up the Book of Mormon with the Word of God. The Bible reads, "Thy WORD is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path." I believe in what GOD says and what GOD says is revealed in HIS WORD. One cannot either understand GOD or believe in HIM unless one willingly accepts what HE says in HIS WORD. There is no way of knowing about the Creator, the Christ, and Savior unless one reads HIS WORD. The Bible exposes the TRUE nature of man. Man is corrupt. Man cannot save himself. Man is worthy of only death and eternal separation from GOD. But GOD so loved the world that HE gave HIS only SON, that whosoever believes in HIM will not perish but possess eternal life.

If anyone has an idol, you may just wish to take a look at Joseph Smith and the presiding Mormon prophets. I can imagine no further misplaced idolatry beyond them! They fully represent taking one's eyes off the Bible (GOD's inerrant WORD) and listening to what they claim to reveal!

[_huckelberry]

"Thy WORD is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path." I believe in what GOD says and what GOD says is revealed in HIS WORD. .....
If anyone has an idol, you may just wish to take a look at Joseph Smith and the presiding Mormon prophets. I can imagine no further misplaced idolatry beyond them! ....

Little Nipper, Some have suggested that Joseph Smith inc. were influenced by evil spirits in creating their revelations. That possibility brings up a Biblical law, "Thou shalt not suffer the witch to live." How do you choose to relate to that piece of what you refer to as inerrant word of God?

I understand that there are ways of putting understanding of the Bible together to consider that verse inactive at this time. It is a possible understanding but one which is not clear or established by any authority. People both Protestant and Catholic have executed a large number of suspected witches in centuries past. This happened particularly after the reformation when people decided they had to take more seriously the inerrant word of God.

I bring this up to point out that the Reformation also introduced terrible wars over religious interpretation.

It is an error of the Bible to be so unclear as to create that much confusion.

[_huckelberry]

I find no way to understand Christianity to be true but by considering Jesus Christ to be the only inerrant word of God.

[_LittleNipper]

"Thy WORD is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path." I believe in what GOD says and what GOD says is revealed in HIS WORD. .....
If anyone has an idol, you may just wish to take a look at Joseph Smith and the presiding Mormon prophets. I can imagine no further misplaced idolatry beyond them! ....

Little Nipper, Some have suggested that Joseph Smith inc. were influenced by evil spirits in creating their revelations. That possibility brings up a Biblical law, "Thou shalt not suffer the witch to live." How do you choose to relate to that piece of what you refer to as inerrant word of God?

I understand that there are ways of putting understanding of the Bible together to consider that verse inactive at this time. It is a possible understanding but one which is not clear or established by any authority. People both Protestant and Catholic have executed a large number of suspected witches in centuries past. This happened particularly after the reformation when people decided they had to take more seriously the inerrant word of God.

I bring this up to point out that the Reformation also introduced terrible wars over religious interpretation.

It is an error of the Bible to be so unclear as to create that much confusion.

The wars of the Reformation concerned power/control and it was the opinion of the Roman Catholic church that IT was in charge of Biblical interpretation. It was also the prevailing misconception of that institution that parishioners should not be allowed to read the Bible on their own. It was God's gift of the printing press that allowed more and more people the opportunity to study the Bible and come to their own conclusions as to the correctness concerning Roman Catholicism. Inerrancy was not the issue, it was DOCTRINE which had TRADITIONAL Papist support but no biblical support. Among these were the following: TRANSUBSTANTIATION, the IMMACULATE CONCEPTION of MARY, INDULGENCES, PURGATORY, PRIESTHOOD CELIBACY, LIMBO, QUEEN of HEAVEN, PERPETUAL VIRGINITY of MARY, PRAYERS directed to SAINTS and EXCOMMUNICATION.

There is nothing unclear regarding SALVATION and who the SAVIOR is and who one must trust. And the simple fact is that Christians are not to trust anyone else's interpretation. They are to beseech GOD through the Holy Spirit and prayerfully regard the learned study of others, but they should in fact study the Bible for themselves and not rest on the sayso of others.

[_huckelberry]

There is nothing unclear regarding SALVATION and who the SAVIOR is and who one must trust. And the simple fact is that Christians are not to trust anyone else's interpretation. They are to beseech GOD through the Holy Spirit and prayerfully regard the learned study of others, but they should in fact study the Bible for themselves and not rest on the sayso of others.

Little Nipper, I am afraid we will have to find ourselves in agreement on your above statement.

[_Doctor Steuss]

Would an honest witness make up numbers to fit a preformed conclusion?

Asking for a friend.

What numbers were made up?

Is that a yes, or a no?

To answer your question though; the rim size, flaring, vessel thickness and overall angle.

I think one of my favorite things about the link (that was shared as evidence for biblical inerrancy) is that while bludgeoning the Bible in order to make it fit with the numbers, it ends up claiming that the Bible contains a copyist error in 2 Chronicles.

[_LittleNipper]

There is nothing unclear regarding SALVATION and who the SAVIOR is and who one must trust. And the simple fact is that Christians are not to trust anyone else's interpretation. They are to beseech GOD through the Holy Spirit and prayerfully regard the learned study of others, but they should in fact study the Bible for themselves and not rest on the sayso of others.

Little Nipper, I am afraid we will have to find ourselves in agreement on your above statement.

Why are you afraid? Fear is what Christ came to eliminate!

[Guest]

What numbers were made up?

Is that a yes, or a no?

To answer your question though; the rim size, flaring, vessel thickness and overall angle.

I think one of my favorite things about the link (that was shared as evidence for biblical inerrancy) is that while bludgeoning the Bible in order to make it fit with the numbers, it ends up claiming that the Bible contains a copyist error in 2 Chronicles.

I see it for what it is ---- a very profound illustration of the detail contained within the Bible that is often overlooked or ignored...

How many stalls of horses did Solomon have, 4,000 or 40,000?
1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chronicles 9:25

40,000 (1 Kings 4:26) - "And Solomon had 40,000 stalls of horses for his chariots, and 12,000 horsemen."
4,000 (2 Chron. 9:25) - "Now Solomon had 4,000 stalls for horses and chariots and 12,000 horsemen, and he stationed them in the chariot cities and with the king in Jerusalem."
There are two possible explanations for this discrepancy. 1) a copyist error. 2) the difference is due to time; that is, one account is at the beginning of Solomon's reign (1 Kings 4:26), and the other at the end (2 Chron. 9:25).

Does this prove the Bible cannot be trusted? NO!