Suspicious packages sent to Clinton, Obama, CNN

[_Water Dog]

Here's what I'll say. If it's confirmed to be what it now appears to be, you won't hear any excuses from me. A crazy person inspired by right-wing rhetoric. Agreed. It doesn't change any of the other points though, that this sort of thing is happening all the same on the left without complaint. This very well could have been a left wing prank. It was a dice roll. The media blowing it out of proportion, blaming Trump, Cuomo mobilizing the guard, etc., these are all attempts to profit politically from what this person who is most likely a literal mental case did. The media rhetoric will grow even more intense now over the next week.... stoking the very fires that led to this in the first place. What will be the lesson. If just trying to score points, it appears y'all won this round. But, sigh.

[_Xenophon]

I have only ever seen a vanifesto while driving out west and it reads as “danger” to me as a man in a trench coat offering to sell you hot wares must do to someone who has always lived in the country. The liberal equivalent to this I see all the time is a beater gas efficient vehicle sporting a million liberal slogan number stickers as if that was the paint job. But the negative reading of that is “flakey” rather than menacing.

We have an older gentleman that drives around the town, seemingly aimlessly, who's truck looks mighty similar to the van (perhaps with a few more notes about guns). I've talked to him a few times and he seems nice enough, especially compared to some of the absolute vitriol he has chosen to brand.

To your note about the liberal equivalent: I've seen it but I have hard time being menaced by a Prius, probably not fair of me but oh well.

[_Water Dog]

Here's his voter registration

Thanks. Is there any way to see prior registrations as well? Probably FOIA to get that kind of historical data.

[_Doctor Steuss]

Here's his voter registration

Thanks. Is there any way to see prior registrations as well? Probably FOIA to get that kind of historical data.

Not that I can find within the various Florida voter portals.

In a quick Google-Fu of statutes, I'm not even sure if that's something that's kept in Florida, but maybe there's something on the Federal level. *shrug*

[_EAllusion]

I have only ever seen a vanifesto while driving out west and it reads as “danger” to me as a man in a trench coat offering to sell you hot wares must do to someone who has always lived in the country. The liberal equivalent to this I see all the time is a beater gas efficient vehicle sporting a million liberal slogan number stickers as if that was the paint job. But the negative reading of that is “flakey” rather than menacing.

We have an older gentleman that drives around the town, seemingly aimlessly, who's truck looks mighty similar to the van (perhaps with a few more notes about guns). I've talked to him a few times and he seems nice enough, especially compared to some of the absolute vitriol he has chosen to brand.

To your note about the liberal equivalent: I've seen it but I have hard time being menaced by a Prius, probably not fair of me but oh well.

In fairness, a Coexist bumper sticker next to a Bernie Sanders one next to a “no blood for oil” one doesn’t read as aggressive as Infowars reified in van form.

[_Xenophon]

In fairness, a Coexist bumper sticker next to a Bernie Sanders one next to a “no blood for oil” one doesn’t read as aggressive as Infowars reified in van form.

Depends on the Coexist sticker

[_Water Dog]

We have an older gentleman that drives around the town, seemingly aimlessly, who's truck looks mighty similar to the van (perhaps with a few more notes about guns). I've talked to him a few times and he seems nice enough, especially compared to some of the absolute vitriol he has chosen to brand.

To your note about the liberal equivalent: I've seen it but I have hard time being menaced by a Prius, probably not fair of me but oh well.

There is definitely lots of liberal equivalent. I don't want to make it a vs. contest though. I regularly see tons of crazy liberal vehicles, I think could even dig up some pics from my phone. for what it's worth, an uncle of mine had a "Ditto Rush" sticker on his car a few years ago. Just the one sticker, not a thousand of them. Someone keyed his car bad and etched "I'm a fascist" on the trunk. I do have another uncle though, who's retired disabled military, and he's got a lot of conservative stickers on his truck. Nothing so crazy as this guy, but it does cross that classy threshold where it starts to look a bit messy.

[_DarkHelmet]

The Democrats went a little overboard with the stickers.

LOL. That's what I was thinking. That over the top van just adds more fuel to the "false flag" conspiracy theory.

[_Xenophon]

There is definitely lots of liberal equivalent. I don't want to make it a vs. contest though. I regularly see tons of crazy liberal vehicles, I think could even dig up some pics from my phone. for what it's worth, an uncle of mine had a "Ditto Rush" sticker on his car a few years ago. Just the one sticker, not a thousand of them. Someone keyed his car bad and etched "I'm a fascist" on the trunk. I do have another uncle though, who's retired disabled military, and he's got a lot of conservative stickers on his truck. Nothing so crazy as this guy, but it does cross that classy threshold where it starts to look a bit messy.

I don't doubt that there is a far-left equivalent out there, I just haven't been personally privy to one. Most of the ones I have seen are more along the lines of what EA pointed too, with some additional anti-vax, anti-gmo, vegan, pot smoking accouterments added. The language I see on the right is generally a little more pointed at individuals and often includes pretty violent words and symbols (e.g. the crosshair over faces or "Obama's a n***r"). I'm sure it exists on the other end, it is just seems less prevalent, especially around my parts.

That is ridiculous that your Uncle's car would be keyed over that. The worst I get is anonymous notes in my mailbox telling me that my small political yard sign is offensive.

All that said, we can agree that generally car stickers, especially more than 2, are ridiculous.

[_Water Dog]

In fairness, a Coexist bumper sticker next to a Bernie Sanders one next to a “no blood for oil” one doesn’t read as aggressive as Infowars reified in van form.

You do realize Infowars isn't a conservative outlet... just saying. I'm not even sure how to classify them. Anarcho libertarians or something? They have been the hub of 9/11 trutherism and were anti-Bush. I would say mostly anti military as well. Their stuff all revolves around surveillance state paranoia.

So, more news coming out. It sounds like this guy has a LONG criminal record. Drug supply activity, domestic violence, fraud, grand theft.