Why is it Legal for Cops to Lie?

[_Kevin Graham]

Retired Dallas Assistant Chief Randy Blankenbaker was in charge of the unit that investigated the case. He said the video was clear to him that both officers violated the use of force policy.

"You are responsible for every round that leaves your weapon. You are told that every time you go to the pistol range to qualify,” said Blankenbaker.

If there's a coverup the city sucks at it.

- Doc

Are saying that because a retired cop conceded what the video already showed, 18 months later, that this proves no cover up?

What's wrong with you? For 18 months the cops put out a story that was false. They knew it was false and let it ride even if it meant insulting the memory of an innocent bystander and making her look like a criminal. That's textbook cover up. And we see it all the flippin time. This is hardly some anomaly.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I just wrote the mayor a long letter ....

But don't you think the public should see this footage a lot sooner? These cops were incredibly irresponsible and this along with too many other shoot first incidents warrants major training/philosophical changes. Letting the public at large know how poorly these cops acted and sooner will promote better conduct/change.

I do. And I've made my thoughts known here locally. I think all media should be uploaded to a cloud, unedited, and kept there indefinitely. But that's costly. Anyway, I voiced support for our Mayor's 'executive order' mandating body cam footage to be released, I think within 10 days or 10 business days. I don't recall which one. I think that's enough time for their legal to review it, and make a policy decision. People need to see what the police see, for good or bad, and it's my firm belief it'll lead to better policing in our community.

- Doc

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Are saying that because a retired cop conceded what the video already showed, 18 months later, that this proves no cover up?

What's wrong with you? For 18 months the cops put out a story that was false. They knew it was false and let it ride even if it meant insulting the memory of an innocent bystander and making her look like a criminal. That's textbook cover up. And we see it all the flippin time. This is hardly some anomaly.

I'll refrain from insulting you because I know you're just passionate about the issue and would like to see better policing, but when this:

was in charge of the unit that investigated the case

was LITERALLY IN THE QUOTED PORTION OF YOUR DAFT POST you make it hard to be civil. Man, I wish you had served so you'd at least be educated on the processes that govern law enforcement and city policy. I'd like to see you be a better poster.

- Doc

[_Kevin Graham]

I do. And I've made my thoughts known here locally. I think all media should be uploaded to a cloud, unedited, and kept there indefinitely. But that's costly. Anyway, I voiced support for our Mayor's 'executive order' mandating body cam footage to be released, I think within 10 days or 10 business days. I don't recall which one. I think that's enough time for their legal to review it, and make a policy decision. People need to see what the police see, for good or bad, and it's my firm belief it'll lead to better policing in our community.

- Doc

And yet there are incidents when the cops don't have their body cam turned on, or there was a "malfunction."

Baltimore Cops Caught Turning Off Body Cameras Before ‘Finding’ Drugs

[_Kevin Graham]

was LITERALLY IN THE QUOTED PORTION OF YOUR DAFT POST you make it hard to be civil. Man, I wish you had served so you'd at least be educated on the processes that govern law enforcement and city policy. I'd like to see you be a better poster.

- Doc

This is even worse. He was in charge, knew about it and kept it quiet for 18 months. Nothing you just posted changes the fact that he didn't state the obvious until the video footage was already released, after he had retired, effectively freeing himself of any repercussions back at the station, and 18 damned months after the incident.

Or were you unaware that this quotation was from two days ago and not 18 months ago? Please answer and show us you're a serious poster.

[_ajax18]

18 months later you find out your daughter did none of those things and she was simply sleeping in a car minding her own business. She woke up to screams and bright lights shining everywhere so she can't see what's around her. She just woke up and and is likely disoriented trying to figure out what is going so she slowly backs up the car trying to figure out if the're talking to her or someone else who is being arrested in the parking lot. A likely assumption since she knows for a fact she didn't commit a crime of any sort.

If I were the parent I would be having more than words with the police chief who willfully lied to me 18 months ago and had the media, friends and family believe she was a thief who tried to run over cops.

Is it not against the law to sleep in your car? At the very least one should expect a DUI test to be administered if he/she is caught sleeping in his car.

[_EAllusion]

18 months later you find out your daughter did none of those things and she was simply sleeping in a car minding her own business. She woke up to screams and bright lights shining everywhere so she can't see what's around her. She just woke up and and is likely disoriented trying to figure out what is going so she slowly backs up the car trying to figure out if the're talking to her or someone else who is being arrested in the parking lot. A likely assumption since she knows for a fact she didn't commit a crime of any sort.

If I were the parent I would be having more than words with the police chief who willfully lied to me 18 months ago and had the media, friends and family believe she was a thief who tried to run over cops.

Is it not against the law to sleep in your car? At the very least one should expect a DUI test to be administered if he/she is caught sleeping in his car.

You want people to get investigated for driving under the influence for doing something that is 1) not driving under the influence and 2) something people do explicitly to avoid driving under the influence? Neat.

It's against the law to sleep in your car in Lousianna? Man, that carceral state sucks if that's true.

Even if that were the case, that wouldn't change this being an example of homicide, and it's kinda pathetic to try to justify it this way. Now I'm just interested if what you are saying is true where you live. I thought this practice meant to crack down on homeless people was all but vanished.

[_Kevin Graham]

LOL. Ajax wonders why people find him to be human garbage. Well, this is it.

So he goes looking for a way to make the woman "technically" a criminal, even though sleeping in the car has nothing to do with why she was murdered in cold blood by the state, in the land of the free.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

was LITERALLY IN THE QUOTED PORTION OF YOUR DAFT POST you make it hard to be civil. Man, I wish you had served so you'd at least be educated on the processes that govern law enforcement and city policy. I'd like to see you be a better poster.

- Doc

This is even worse. He was in charge, knew about it and kept it quiet for 18 months. Nothing you just posted changes the fact that he didn't state the obvious until the video footage was already released, after he had retired, effectively freeing himself of any repercussions back at the station, and 18 damned months after the incident.

Or were you unaware that this quotation was from two days ago and not 18 months ago? Please answer and show us you're a serious poster.

I have damned eyeballs, Kevin. I also can google. I don't know what kind of top secret Internet search engine you're using, but I'm fairly certain it's the same one I do (unless you use Bing). You bring up a topic, and people *gasp* discuss the issue. Unless you want to be in an echo chamber of two or three backpatters why don't you damned take a chill pill?

Whatever the case may be your OP title is silly.

It's no ok for cops to lie.

The cops involved were disciplined, or arrested and charged.

The city released the footage.

The guy who investigated the crime straight up said it was a crime and cops should be held accountable for their actions.

If you have a problem with the city of Dallas' policy regarding bodycam footage being released damned write them. Or move to the municipality and vote a councilman into a seat.

Or is your only objective to get a virtual handjob from other unthinking and reactionary posters like yourself? If that's the case, cool. Knock yourself out.

- Doc

[_EAllusion]

I have ____ eyeballs, Kevin. I also can google. I don't know what kind of top secret Internet search engine you're using, but I'm fairly certain it's the same one I do (unless you use Bing). You bring up a topic, and people *gasp* discuss the issue. Unless you want to be in an echo chamber of two or three backpatters why don't you ____ take a chill pill?

Whatever the case may be your OP title is silly.

It's no ok for cops to lie.

The cops involved were disciplined, or arrested and charged.

The city released the footage.

The guy who investigated the crime straight up said it was a crime and cops should be held accountable for their actions.

If you have a problem with the city of Dallas' policy regarding bodycam footage being released ____ write them. Or move to the municipality and vote a councilman into a seat.

Or is your only objective to get a virtual handjob from other unthinking and reactionary posters like yourself? If that's the case, cool. Knock yourself out.

- Doc

Doc is free to discuss whatever he wants. If someone else wants to discuss a point he doesn't agree with, then they are wasting their time posting on a message board and should instead be using that time to personally lobby the government whose action they disagree with.