Why is it Legal for Cops to Lie?

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Re: Why is it Legal for Cops to Lie?

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ajax18 wrote:Is it not against the law to sleep in your car? At the very least one should expect a DUI test to be administered if he/she is caught sleeping in his car.


How would a DUI test be administered when the police shot and killed the driver? Are you suggesting there's a toxicology report we haven't seen, yet?

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You want people to get investigated for driving under the influence for doing something that is 1) not driving under the influence and 2) something people do explicitly to avoid driving under the influence? Neat.

It's against the law to sleep in your car in Lousianna? Man, that carceral state sucks if that's true.


I wasn't attempting to justify anything nor saying whether it should be legal or illegal. I just remember Tiger Woods getting arrested after being found asleep in his car. Are you sure it's not illegal to sleep in your car?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8ge8JS_gA
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ajax18 wrote:
You want people to get investigated for driving under the influence for doing something that is 1) not driving under the influence and 2) something people do explicitly to avoid driving under the influence? Neat.

It's against the law to sleep in your car in Lousianna? Man, that carceral state sucks if that's true.


I wasn't attempting to justify anything nor saying whether it should be legal or illegal. I just remember Tiger Woods getting arrested after being found asleep in his car. Are you sure it's not illegal to sleep in your car?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8ge8JS_gA


But they didn't shoot tiger. Would the cops have been justified to shoot him?
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ajax18 wrote:
You want people to get investigated for driving under the influence for doing something that is 1) not driving under the influence and 2) something people do explicitly to avoid driving under the influence? Neat.

It's against the law to sleep in your car in Lousianna? Man, that carceral state sucks if that's true.


I wasn't attempting to justify anything nor saying whether it should be legal or illegal. I just remember Tiger Woods getting arrested after being found asleep in his car. Are you sure it's not illegal to sleep in your car?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU8ge8JS_gA


The video you linked had Tiger Woods asleep in his car in the middle of the road. I'm pretty darn sure that having your car parked in the middle of the road while you sleep might get you in trouble if you don't have a good medical excuse.

I'm not saying that it's legal everywhere in the US to sleep in your car. I'm not sure. I'm vaguely aware that some locations at least used to try to make this illegal to try and chase out the homeless, but that's awful, and as far as I know it's at least not common. It definitely isn't illegal to sleep in your car where I'm from.
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But they didn't shoot tiger. Would the cops have been justified to shoot him?


No they wouldn't. My point was that Kevin was saying the woman was doing nothing illegal by sleeping in her car. I remember it being illegal to sleep outside. But usually this was only enforced upon people who had the ability to pay a fine, court costs, and attorney's fees.
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It's not illegal to sleep in the nude. But if you sleep in the nude in the middle of a busy highway, I'm guessing the law might not look kindly upon that. I think you need to investigate if Tiger Woods broke any law by falling asleep in his car or if him doing so in the middle of the road was the problem.
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EAllusion wrote:It's not illegal to sleep in the nude. But if you sleep in the nude in the middle of a busy highway, I'm guessing the law might not look kindly upon that. I think you need to investigate if Tiger Woods broke any law by falling asleep in his car or if him doing so in the middle of the road was the problem.

for example, some jurisdictions like Los Angeles make it illegal to sleep in your car.
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EAllusion wrote:... in the middle of the road was the problem.


A small quibble. The car was positioned in the right-hand lane and right shoulder.

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It isn't illegal to sleep in your car in Texas, so why are we even talking about this? She wasn't shot for sleeping.
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ajax18 wrote:
But they didn't shoot tiger. Would the cops have been justified to shoot him?


No they wouldn't. My point was that Kevin was saying the woman was doing nothing illegal by sleeping in her car. I remember it being illegal to sleep outside. But usually this was only enforced upon people who had the ability to pay a fine, court costs, and attorney's fees.


I've never heard it being illegal to sleep outside or sleep in your car.

Plenty of folks sleep in their car (and semis) at rest stops, for example.
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