Why is it Legal for Cops to Lie?

[_Kevin Graham]

I've never heard it being illegal to sleep outside or sleep in your car.

Plenty of folks sleep in their car (and semis) at rest stops, for example.

It varies from state to state, but since it isn't illegal to sleep in a car in Texas, I don't even know why we're still discussing this. It is a red herring.

[_EAllusion]

... in the middle of the road was the problem.

A small quibble. The car was positioned in the right-hand lane and right shoulder.



- Doc

Is this a regional expression thing? I call that being in the middle of the road even if it isn’t the literal middle. The police in the video also said he was in the middle of the road.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

EA,

I went ahead and submitted the picture to a forensics expert, and this is what I got back:



Hi Dr. Cameron,

As you can see the single yellow line indicates the middle of the road. You can see the solid white line that I encircled indicates the edge of the far right lane. I also noted, with an arrow, the edge of the road.

To whit, the car is NOT in the middle of the road, but is straddling the right lane and the shoulder of the road. In fact, this car could be considered to be illegally stopped partially in the right-hand lane of the road. I would not consider this car to be "in the middle of the road", as it were."

So. Take that for what it's worth, but it comes from an expert.

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Is this a regional expression thing? I call that being in the middle of the road even if it isn’t the literal middle. The police in the video also said he was in the middle of the road.

No. It's parked half way onto the shoulder, blocking the right lane.

[_EAllusion]

Either this board is literal to a fault or there is a language barrier here. Being in the road that people drive on = being in the middle of the road. As in “Get out of the middle of the road!” It is an expression.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Either this board is literal to a fault or there is a language barrier here. Being in the road that people drive on = being in the middle of the road. As in “Get out of the middle of the road!” It is an expression.

Well, where I come from 'middle of the road' is a description meaning ‘avoiding extremes; moderate’ and is often used to taking a bland position on something or being a moderate.

If a kid were in the road we'd just say, "EA, get yo' dumb ass outta da road, fool!"

- Doc

[_Jersey Girl]

Either this board is literal to a fault or there is a language barrier here. Being in the road that people drive on = being in the middle of the road. As in “Get out of the middle of the road!” It is an expression.

Whatever you say.

[_Kevin Graham]

I have ____ eyeballs, Kevin. I also can google. I don't know what kind of top secret Internet search engine you're using, but I'm fairly certain it's the same one I do (unless you use Bing). You bring up a topic, and people *gasp* discuss the issue. Unless you want to be in an echo chamber of two or three backpatters why don't you ____ take a chill pill?

Me take a chill pill? LOL. That's funny after suggesting I ignored a highlighted phrase that doesn't negate anything I said. I'm just pointing out that it doesn't, and this is your response? What was all that talk about being a good poster? After this, along with the hyper-literal approach to EA's comment, I think you're just trolling again.

Whatever the case may be your OP title is silly.

It's no ok for cops to lie.

We're beyond that now, and I never asked if it was "OK" for them to lie. The fact is they do, and they do it all the time and continue to get away with it. Every once in a while they'll suspend or even arrest the cops involved, but only a small percentage of them are ever convicted.

The city released the footage.

Ya, 18 months later, remember?

The guy who investigated the crime straight up said it was a crime and cops should be held accountable for their actions.

Ya, 18 months later, remember?

Or is your only objective to get a virtual handjob from other unthinking and reactionary posters like yourself? If that's the case, cool. Knock yourself out.
- Doc

Uh, you're the one making a mountain out of the molehill fact that the cop in charge eventually said what everyone else suspected to be true. Meanwhile the family of the victim have to endure 18 months of malicious insinuation that their daughter had done something wrong to deserve being gunned down by the police.

[_Res Ipsa]

Re: sleeping in cars. Quite a few cities enacted laws against sleeping in cars as an anti-homeless measure. So I think you’d have to look at city ordinances, not state laws. Most rest stops put a limit on sleeping, but don’t prohibit it.

[_EAllusion]

Either this board is literal to a fault or there is a language barrier here. Being in the road that people drive on = being in the middle of the road. As in “Get out of the middle of the road!” It is an expression.

Well, where I come from 'middle of the road' is a description meaning ‘avoiding extremes; moderate’ and is often used to taking a bland position on something or being a moderate.

If a kid were in the road we'd just say, "EAllusion, get yo' dumb ass outta da road, fool!"

- Doc

Heh. Middle of the road has that meaning too. You know, the police said he was in the middle of the road. I think we should just trust the investigative process here.

I can’t quite get my head around saying so-and-so ran into the middle of the road and the listener thinking I mean they went to the center of the road.