I'm not sure that's technically accurate. I think she touched the mic. He karate chopped her arm. Neither here nor there. The issue is whether given the sum total of his behavior it's fair to pull his pass. I think it is. Beyond that we can just agree to disagree. I remember Obama revoking access on occasion, and don't remember anybody accusing infringement of constitutional rights over it.
He didn't "karate chop" her arm.
A karate chop like movement is the impression that the "doctored" video where the frames were sped up (I call that editing, but whatever) was intended to leave on the viewer.
It didn't happen.
You don't care about that. You're spitballing and everyone here knows it.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
I'm not entirely sure if his press pass should have been pulled. I lean toward suspending it, not pulling it permanently. The reason that I say that is because he ignored a direction from the POTUS--referring to the office, not the person who holds it. But at the same time, I also think that Trump played his part in egging on the situation, and the White House aide should certainly be counseled about how to more appropriately gain physical access to the mic and learn when not to attempt to do so. She should have waited for the exchange to conclude instead of trying twice to grab it. And yes, I understand she was trying to do her job.
The entire series of exchanges was combative, awkward, and embarrassing.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
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Jersey Girl wrote:I'm not entirely sure if his press pass should have been pulled. I lean toward suspending it, not pulling it permanently.
He'll get it back when Beto wins the Presidency. Heh.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
Jersey Girl wrote:When he repeatedly says that fake news is the enemy of the people, I agree with that.
Trump routinely defines any organization that prints a story that he does not like as a 'fake news' organization and has repeatedly named many of the larger major press organizations as 'fake news' if they don't fall in line playing the sycophant, as Fox does.
Are you sure that you agree that the majority of news organizations produce and report exclusively fake news stories? This is where you're going with your statement above.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:When you say 'on occasion', you really ought to provide examples. Perhaps the board could use some balance on this thread. And some facts.
Jersey Girl wrote:When he repeatedly says that fake news is the enemy of the people, I agree with that.
Trump routinely defines any organization that prints a story that he does not like as a 'fake news' organization and has repeatedly named many of the larger major press organizations as 'fake news' if they don't fall in line playing the sycophant, as Fox does.
Are you sure that you agree that the majority of news organizations produce and report exclusively fake news stories? This is where you're going with your statement above.
Haven't I already addressed this more than once? Are you reading my posts, canpakes?
Nowhere in my posts have I said that I agree that "the majority of news organizations produce and report exclusively fake news stories." And no, that's not where I'm "going".
Do you imagine that I need someone to think for me?
I've already clearly stated my positions on what he's stated and what I think his motivations are. Multiple times.
Read the totality of my posts. I'm not going backwards here. Pulling one sentence out of all the sentences that I've written isn't accurately representing what I have stated here.
Failure is not falling down but refusing to get up.
Chinese Proverb
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:When you say 'on occasion', you really ought to provide examples. Perhaps the board could use some balance on this thread. And some facts.
Are you asserting the opposite?
Upstream, you posted:
Water Dog wrote:I remember Obama revoking access on occasion, and don't remember anybody accusing infringement of constitutional rights over it.
Are you asserting that a particular member of the press corps had their access revoked under Obama?
Jersey Girl wrote:Haven't I already addressed this more than once? Are you reading my posts, canpakes?
Nowhere in my posts have I said that I agree that "the majority of news organizations produce and report exclusively fake news stories." And no, that's not where I'm "going".
Do you imagine that I need someone to think for me?
I've already clearly stated my positions on what he's stated and what I think his motivations are. Multiple times.
Read the totality of my posts. I'm not going backwards here. Pulling one sentence out of all the sentences that I've written isn't accurately representing what I have stated here.
I appreciate the time and energy that you've put into your posts within this thread. But the sentence that I asked about is worded in a way that caught my eye, given Trump's attempt to conflate the meaning of 'fake news' and his near-exclusive (if not total) use of the term to identify stories that he just doesn't like.
"Fake news" is everyone's 'enemy', but what you and I would define as such is not what Trump is referring to. I believe that this distinction matters if one is going to claim agreement with Trump given that he uses the term dishonestly.
canpakes wrote:... but what you and I would define as such is not what Trump is referring to. ...
CFR
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
