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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:I think They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves,

Most amusing is that they believe that their sloppy, public circle jerk reflects on anyone other than themselves.
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Interesting ...

Fox News, setting aside competitive differences, will file an amicus brief in support of CNN's lawsuit against the White House, which seeks to reverse an administration decision to suspend chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta's press pass.

“Fox News supports CNN in its legal effort to regain its White House reporter’s press credential," network president Jay Wallace said in a statement. "We intend to file an amicus brief with the U.S. District Court. Secret Service passes for working White House journalists should never be weaponized. While we don’t condone the growing antagonistic tone by both the President and the press at recent media avails, we do support a free press, access and open exchanges for the American people.”
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canpakes wrote:Interesting ...

Fox News, setting aside competitive differences, will file an amicus brief in support of CNN's lawsuit against the White House, which seeks to reverse an administration decision to suspend chief White House correspondent Jim Acosta's press pass.

“Fox News supports CNN in its legal effort to regain its White House reporter’s press credential," network president Jay Wallace said in a statement. "We intend to file an amicus brief with the U.S. District Court. Secret Service passes for working White House journalists should never be weaponized. While we don’t condone the growing antagonistic tone by both the President and the press at recent media avails, we do support a free press, access and open exchanges for the American people.”


Fox News knows that, in the tit for tat game, they’d be the future loser. I wonder if this is why McConnell met with Murdoch over the weekend.
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Why doesn't CNN just replace Acosta?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Why doesn't CNN just replace Acosta?


Principle, I suspect. Who gets to choose which reporters cover the President? If it’s the President, then he can revoke the credentials of any reporter that criticizes him. (Trump singled out Acosta at his first press conference as President.) That would mean that the President could limit White House access to reporters who report only what the President wants to hear. Also, the President could keep CNN or another press company from press conference by simply refusing admittance to whichever reporter they sent.
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I'm not sure how I went "full subgenius?" I made a casual remark that I remember similar stuff with Obama. I don't care enough to submit FOIA requests or whatever to get a list of all the people Obama blocked. It's quite beside the point either way.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:Why doesn't CNN just replace Acosta?


Principle, I suspect. Who gets to choose which reporters cover the President? If it’s the President, then he can revoke the credentials of any reporter that criticizes him. (Trump singled out Acosta at his first press conference as President.) That would mean that the President could limit White House access to reporters who report only what the President wants to hear. Also, the President could keep CNN or another press company from press conference by simply refusing admittance to whichever reporter they sent.


Principle?

There have been selected small groups of press invited to the White House in the past during this administration. The "gaggle", I believe it is called.

In this case, I don't see Trump as revoking the cred. of a reporter who criticizes him. Acosta began by stating outright that he was going to challenge the President. Fine. President says "Here we go", then answered that question in full with a bit of a debate between him and Acosta, then told Acosta "That's enough". In spite of the fact that the next reporter was waiting and ready to speak, Acosta continued to press another question, Trump answered it and told him to put down the mic and pass to another reporter.

Acosta refused.

What principle are we talking about here exactly? The principle where a reporter refuses to follow the direction of the President? The principle where a reporter refuses to pass to a colleague? The principle where a reporter decides to play tug o war with a White House aide over a mic he's been told to pass by a President who has already and undeniably answered two questions that he posed?

Acosta wants to hog the spotlight away from his own colleagues and we're talking about principle regarding the press?

It is to laugh.
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Defending freedom of speech necessarily involves defending speech you hate. Likewise with the press. I don’t consider freedom of the press to be a laughing matter, and am happy that CNN and FOX have joined in seeking relief from the courts. I’m much more concerned with a President’s ability to control the press than I am the boorish antics of a reporter.
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Res Ipsa wrote:Defending freedom of speech necessarily involves defending speech you hate. Likewise with the press. I don’t consider freedom of the press to be a laughing matter, and am happy that CNN and FOX have joined in seeking relief from the courts. I’m much more concerned with a President’s ability to control the press than I am the boorish antics of a reporter.


I think you're making more out of this than it warrants.
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