And here comes Mitt Romney ...

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And here comes Mitt Romney ...

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Mitt Romney: Trump's biggest failure is a lack of character in leading 'divided' nation

"Incoming Utah senator says president has abandoned allies and failed to lead a ‘divided, resentful and angry’ nation"

That does at least have the merit of being true, I suppose. It is a sad commentary on the state of the Republican party that a Republican senator thought this needed saying.

Mitt Romney, the former Republican presidential candidate and incoming US senator, has sharply criticised Donald Trump both personally and professionally, accusing him of deserting the nation’s allies and lacking the character to lead a “divided” nation.

In a Washington Post essay published on Tuesday evening, Romney said Trump’s presidency “made a deep descent” in December and blamed him for the departures of defence secretary Jim Mattis and White House chief of staff John Kelly.

“The appointment of senior persons of lesser experience, the abandonment of allies who fight beside us, and the president’s thoughtless claim that America has long been a ‘sucker’ in world affairs all defined his presidency down,” he wrote.

“On balance, his conduct over the past two years, particularly his actions this month, is evidence that the president has not risen to the mantle of the office.”

Romney praised Trump’s tax policies, stance on China and appointment of conservative judges but said they were “mainstream” Republican policies.

“To a great degree, a presidency shapes the public character of the nation,” he wrote. “A president should unite us and inspire us to follow ‘our better angels’. A president should demonstrate the essential qualities of honesty and integrity, and elevate the national discourse with comity and mutual respect. As a nation, we have been blessed with presidents who have called on the greatness of the American spirit.

“With the nation so divided, resentful and angry, presidential leadership in qualities of character is indispensable. And it is in this province where the incumbent’s shortfall has been most glaring.”

He added that “Trump’s words and actions have caused dismay around the world” and cited Pew reports suggesting belief among people in Germany, Britain, France, Canada and Sweden that Trump would “do the right thing” had fallen from 84% in 2016 to 16% a year later.

The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Romney is staking out an independent position two days before he takes office on Thursday. It is unclear whether Trump will face a serious challenge in 2020 to securing the Republican party’s presidential nomination.

In February last year, Trump endorsed Romney’s run for a Senate seat in Utah.

During the 2016 presidential campaign, Romney excoriated Trump as a “fraud” who was “playing the American public for suckers”. Trump responded that Romney had “choked like a dog” in his unsuccessful 2012 campaign against Barack Obama.

Despite Romney’s prior criticism, after Trump won the presidency in November 2016, Trump briefly considered tapping Romney as secretary of state.

In his essay on Tuesday, Romney said he “will speak out against significant statements or actions that are divisive, racist, sexist, anti-immigrant, dishonest or destructive to democratic institutions”.

Romney has strongly defended press freedom and challenged Trump’s repeated attacks on some news outlets as an “enemy of the people”.

In an essay in November, he wrote: “The media is essential to our Republic, to our freedom, to the cause of freedom abroad, and to our national security. It is very much our friend.”
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I've been watching the Trumpers go after Mitt, calling him McCain 2.0, traitor, etc.

This will be fascinating to watch in Utah. Mormons torn between their favorite son Mitt and their favorite thug Trump. :lol:
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Ben Shapiro goes after Mitt...

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/01/ ... roductive/

"So, what’s Romney doing with his op-ed? Nothing useful. In fact, he’s doing something seriously counterproductive. If Senator Romney wants to sound off against Trump’s excesses and character flaws, he should be all means do so in response to Trump’s tweets or statements or actions. But by forcing a “Love Trump or Leave Trump” choice on Republicans, he’s actually doing the work of both the most ardent Trumpists and the most viciously antagonistic members of the Democratic party and the media."

Yet another conservative claims Mitt hit a bull's eye:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opin ... m-of-trump

"Mitt Romney’s surprising New Year’s Day column criticizing Donald Trump was a brave, bold, and bracing corrective for a president run amok.

Romney’s first paragraph lays out his case well: “The Trump presidency made a deep descent in December. The departures of Defense Secretary Jim Mattis and White House Chief of Staff John F. Kelly, the appointment of senior persons of lesser experience, the abandonment of allies who fight beside us, and the president’s thoughtless claim that America has long been a 'sucker' in world affairs all defined his presidency down.”

If anything, though, Romney’s bill of particulars could have been longer. Trump badly misplayed his hand on funding for a border wall, making it less likely that he will secure barrier financing while spurring an embarrassing partial government shutdown. (Democratic leaders are negotiating in bad faith, and I believe they are also wrong on the substance, but that’s another story.) Trump also roiled investment markets with ill-timed and ill-considered criticisms of the Federal Reserve.

Abroad, he also made our mission in Iraq harder by appearing to snub Iraq’s leaders at a time when they are struggling to maintain crucial local support for that mission. His supposed breakthrough for peace with North Korea keeps looking more and more like the foolhardy claims of a sucker. And he continues to impose tariffs on metals from Canada and Mexico despite his utterly overhyped new trade deal, hurting American consumers while making congressional confirmation of the deal more difficult.

And those are just the worst of the lowlights.

The bigger and more important point of Romney’s column, however, wasn’t about specific Trumpian actions. Whatever are Trump’s policy errors (or successes), they are at least matched by this: “To a great degree, a presidency shapes the public character of the nation,” wrote Romney. “A president should unite us and inspire us to follow ‘our better angels.’ A president should demonstrate the essential qualities of honesty and integrity, and elevate the national discourse with comity and mutual respect. ... And it is in this province where the incumbent’s shortfall has been most glaring.”

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On Facebook, Mitt is being called "McCain 2.0", RINO and worse by Trump followers. What an interesting situation.
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And Harry Reid just called Trump the worst presient ever. Not a huge surprise.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 08016.html

Mitt, Harry and Jeff Flake are all Mormons. It's only a matter of time before Trump tweets about their magic underwear.
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DarkHelmet wrote:And Harry Reid just called Trump the worst presient ever. Not a huge surprise.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 08016.html

Mitt, Harry and Jeff Flake are all Mormons. It's only a matter of time before Trump tweets about their magic underwear.


This bit is good:

When Mr Reid was asked about comments made by former FBI director James Comey calling Mr Trump a “mob boss”, Mr Reid disgreed.

“Organised crime is a business,” Mr Reid said, “and they are really good with what they do. But they are better off when things are predictable. In my opinion, they do not do well with chaos. And that’s what we have going with Trump.”


Yup. Come to think of it, the US would be better off it Trump was a mob boss. Because then he would have clear aims, a plan to achieve those aims, and would be working hard to be sure that everything looks calm and orderly.

Instead, the US, its allies and partners have to deal with someone who hardly seems to think and plan at all, but just shoots his mouth off in any way that feels good at the time.
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Oh dear. Now Trump is dividing the Romney family. Can the Mormons be far behind? :eek:

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/ ... mp-1077411

In the reinvigorated feud between her uncle, Mitt Romney, and her boss, President Donald Trump, Republican National Committee chairwoman Ronna McDaniel has picked a side: the president’s.

McDaniel was critical of Romney, referring to him in a post to Twitter only as “an incoming Republican freshman senator.” Romney, who will be sworn in as a senator from Utah later this week, authored a scathing op-ed published Tuesday by The Washington Post in which he wrote that Trump “has not risen to the mantle” of the presidency.

“President is attacked and obstructed by the mainstream media media and Democrats 24/7,” McDaniel wrote on Twitter. “For an incoming Republican freshman senator to attack @realDonaldTrump as their first act feeds into what the Democrats and media want and is disappointing and unproductive.”
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Maksutov wrote:I've been watching the Trumpers go after Mitt, calling him McCain 2.0, traitor, etc.

This will be fascinating to watch in Utah. Mormons torn between their favorite son Mitt and their favorite thug Trump. :lol:


I'm not torn anymore. Mitt Romney had his chance and lost. Bottom line.
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Chap wrote:It is a sad commentary on the state of the Republican party that a Republican senator thought this needed saying.


Sad? because a party allows for differences of opinion? dissenting expression? ...and doesn't require blind allegiance?

Geez, all indications are that the RNC are still in a way better state than the DNC. The current extremists in the DNC are going to create more havoc in 2020 than the "tea party" ever dreamed of doing in the harbor.
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ajax18 wrote:
Maksutov wrote:I've been watching the Trumpers go after Mitt, calling him McCain 2.0, traitor, etc.

This will be fascinating to watch in Utah. Mormons torn between their favorite son Mitt and their favorite thug Trump. :lol:


I'm not torn anymore. Mitt Romney had his chance and lost. Bottom line.


Yeah. Like the Confederacy. Bottom line. :cool:
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subgenius wrote:
Chap wrote:It is a sad commentary on the state of the Republican party that a Republican senator thought this needed saying.


Sad? because a party allows for differences of opinion? dissenting expression? ...and doesn't require blind allegiance?


Nope. Sad because a Republican senator thought it worthwhile, even necessary, to state things that should surely have been blindingly obvious to his fellow Republican senators for quite a long time.

Such as, for instance:

Mitt Romney, the former Republican presidential candidate and incoming US senator, has sharply criticised Donald Trump both personally and professionally, accusing him of deserting the nation’s allies and lacking the character to lead a “divided” nation.

In a Washington Post essay published on Tuesday evening, Romney said Trump’s presidency “made a deep descent” in December and blamed him for the departures of defence secretary Jim Mattis and White House chief of staff John Kelly.

“The appointment of senior persons of lesser experience, the abandonment of allies who fight beside us, and the president’s thoughtless claim that America has long been a ‘sucker’ in world affairs all defined his presidency down,” he wrote.

“On balance, his conduct over the past two years, particularly his actions this month, is evidence that the president has not risen to the mantle of the office.”
Zadok:
I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis.
Maksutov:
That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
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