No Trump defenders left ...?

[_EAllusion]

EAllusion

LOL...are you that desperate that you have to be so wooden. A key phrase I used is "in a sense..." If you believe Trump is your average or even close to average politician fine...and if you believe most of the politicians in Washington pure businesspersons that is also fine.

He's been in politics for over 20 years, was the head of a major political campaign, and holds the most important political office in the country. I think saying, "he's not a politician" is one of those things people say because they think it sounds smart and makes him an outsider, but is actually contentless nonsense. If you instead mean, "he's only held a won political office for a few years" in addition to that being a different claim than him not being a politician, it makes your claim that he's "very clean for a politician" even more weird. What does that reduce into? Corrupt as he may be, Donald Trump has only held office for 2 years? Thanks for the calendar update.

[_canpakes]

There is absolutely no sense in which Trump is a "very clean politician."

There certainly is in the sense he is not really a politician, you can make more of it if you like, but I believe he is a dirty ruthless businessman with a ego that is unmatched by few.

If Trump “is not really a politician”, then all that you have left is that “he is a dirty ruthless businessman with a ego that is unmatched by few”.

And, after just complaining about the Clintons, tell my why, again, you decided to vote for “a dirty ruthless businessman with a ego that is unmatched by few”, and one that seems to surround himself with corrupted people who like to align themselves with Russians and their interests?

What were you hoping to achieve with your vote?

[_Chap]

I notice that you pivoted back to Trump alone as soon as you got past the first sentence.

My question was deliberately addressed to the question of Trump's associates, whom he personally selected and in whom he has placed his trust during his campaign and during his period in office. What do you think of them? Have they proved themselves to be above or below what you think of as an acceptable standard of probity?

(Nope. I'm not really interested in anybody not connected with Trump. Because, oh, I dunno. Maybe something to do with him being president at the moment, and a whole lot of what I believe is called 'weird ____' going on at the moment.)

Which ones? Some are creditable others maybe not so much. If you have a point to make about someone make it.

I just have to remind myself that I am speaking to the 'just answer my question' specialist here ...

I'll be happy if you could give me a couple of examples of each kind of person ('creditable' and 'not so much') who has served on what we might call the Trump team (people, including his family, who have occupied significant positions in his campaign team or his administration).

You have expressed some quite definite opinions about the performances of other persons involved in recent US political life, so I hope we shall hear your opinion on the people to whom my question refers.

[_Maksutov]

EAllusion

LOL...are you that desperate

Dude, your desperate whatabouts and weaselism are all over this thread. You're in a cult now. Love your guru.

[_Markk]

If Trump “is not really a politician”, then all that you have left is that “he is a dirty ruthless businessman with a ego that is unmatched by few”.

And, after just complaining about the Clintons, tell my why, again, you decided to vote for “a dirty ruthless businessman with a ego that is unmatched by few”, and one that seems to surround himself with corrupted people who like to align themselves with Russians and their interests?

What were you hoping to achieve with your vote?

If you go back two years and read, I stated why I would/did vote for Trump. I also stated it was pretty sad that it came down to the choices we had...Trump was not even close to my first choice. I was clear I voted for Trump mainly in that he would elect conservative SCJ...which he did, so in that sense it was a good choice for me. I also wrote I am a pragmatist and would give him a chance and want him to succeed.

If you were honest, you would acknowledge Trump has done some positive things...the economy is in a good cycle, the middle has settled down, terrorism is in a lull, people are getting back to work, and North Korea may be heading in the right direction....hopefully it will keep positive despite the turmoil.

My boss is very wealthy and successful...he owns one of the largest restoration/construction companies on the west coast, among a few other LCC's. We employee over 200 people and have countless of very successful major projects. We build and restore...yet he couldn't tell you the difference between a hammer and a nail or build a dog house ( I am not exaggerating that much).

Point being he is a business man who happens to be in the business of construction and he would be successful if he owned a muffin factory, it would be ran the same way. By getting people that are motivated who know their job and do it well, and marketing his brand big time.

The same is with Trump, he is a business man who happens to be in the business of politics at this time in his life. He was/is also in the business of construction, development, TV, and other ventures.

He is not like a Biden, Feinstein, or Rubio and countless others in Washington who are sucking us dry in Club DC...(the swamp). If you guys do not understand this my guess is you have a goverment job.

Your question begs...what were you hoping to achieve with your vote...whether Hillary or other? Given our choices I would really like to here you opinion on that. Do you want Trump to succeed? In your mind what has he done that is good?

[_Markk]

You have expressed some quite definite opinions about the performances of other persons involved in recent US political life, so I hope we shall hear your opinion on the people to whom my question refers.

I'll start at the top...Biden:

I think he is a good man from what I know, and a perfect yes man for Trump. A proto type VP. I hope nothing happens to Trump, he would get creamed.

Grade for VP ... "B-" perfect for him a yes man, good man, scary if he becomes president in that in my view would be a Jimmy Carter/Obama leader...weak.


Give me your grade and opinion and you name the next in line...if not I guess I will.

[_Chap]

If you were honest, you would acknowledge Trump has done some positive things...the economy is in a good cycle, the middle has settled down, terrorism is in a lull, people are getting back to work, and North Korea may be heading in the right direction....hopefully it will keep positive despite the turmoil.

I think you need to see this:

viewtopic.php?p=1163255#p1163255

As that article points out, Trump had a huge advantage in having the Senate and the House on his side for the first half of his term. Even with that, he really didn't do a whole lot, partly because of political ineptitude. And he made himself so unpopular that the Republicans lost the House. The next half of his term is likely to be very bumpy for him.

Amongst other things, Trump would be delighted to hear you say that "North Korea may be heading in the right direction". Others (see the link) put it differently:

"Kim Jong Un still has his weapons programme and, having conceded nothing, now demands a reward from America."

[_Chap]

I asked this (my emphasis):

I'll be happy if you could give me a couple of examples of each kind of person ('creditable' and 'not so much') who has served on what we might call the Trump team (people, including his family, who have occupied significant positions in his campaign team or his administration).

You have expressed some quite definite opinions about the performances of other persons involved in recent US political life, so I hope we shall hear your opinion on the people to whom my question refers.

And you answer with this:

I'll start at the top...Biden:

I think he is a good man from what I know, and a perfect yes man for Trump. A proto type VP. I hope nothing happens to Trump, he would get creamed.

.....

Am I to understand that you think that Senator Joe Biden (Democrat, former VP to Obama) is someone who "has served on what we might call the Trump team (people, including his family, who have occupied significant positions in his campaign team or his administration)"?

[_schreech]

You have expressed some quite definite opinions about the performances of other persons involved in recent US political life, so I hope we shall hear your opinion on the people to whom my question refers.

I'll start at the top...Biden:

I think he is a good man from what I know, and a perfect yes man for Trump. A proto type VP. I hope nothing happens to Trump, he would get creamed.

O.M.G.


First the inevitable pivot to anecdote and a post about what a “success” businessman Trump is. It’s apparently impressive to yokels that the Cheeto didn’t squander ALL the hundreds of millions of dollars his father injected into his failing business ventures.

Then, you don’t even know who the VP is. What a gem.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I can't even right now.

- Doc