subgenius wrote:Why do you support Pelosi holding hundreds of thousands of government employees hostage over a .01 percent budget item?
Why do you support Trump holding hundreds of thousands of government employees hostage over an ineffective 40 billion dollar boondoggle because he’s afraid of losing his job and making Ann Coulter mad?
EAllusion wrote:Which of the three assertions do you want to have established? I'm not sure what you are ignorant about here.
just prove that Republicans targeted them via an immigration policy and that the reason behind this targeting was because these immigrants would be easily influenced to support Republicans. You spouting out some demographics about low activity does nopt prove that republican strategy...take off your tin foil hat and provide some facts toward the republican party motivation. I know you guys like to believe that the accusation in and of itself makes something true - but homey don't play that.
So it's racist to claim that Republicans adopted a deliberate strategy of appealing to Hispanic voters in general and Mexican-Americans in particular with immigration policy being one arm of this effort in the early 2000's? And this was done with the intent to craft a durable Republican demographic majority? Can you explain how that's racist? Karl Rove isn't a race. You know that, right?
It would be racist to claim that Mexican-Americans had (and still have) low voter engagement or are more culturally conservative relative to the general population and the Democratic party in particular if that were a false stereotype. Something tells me that you managed to discover those facts in between the time you wrote those two posts. That leads to the hilarious, "You're being racist against Republicans!" charge. Or, perhaps you are saying that believing that Hispanic voters could be persuaded to be more Republican in significant numbers with immigration policy is itself racist. But that would be a charge of racism leveled at the political strategists who pursued that strategy, not people who simply note the strategy existed. But, in their defense, doing something about the Republican association with xenophobic hatred of Hispanics probably would reduce a barrier to entry for voting Republican for a not insignificant number of Hispanics. See already linked research or, failing at that, common sense. Learning disability indeed.
So now we're just left with you disputing a widely reported political strategy that at one point was a major theme in political coverage for years. Because of that fact, you can do a basic google search and read an endless bounty of period political commentary on it. Or you could read a link provided to you.
subgenius wrote:Why do you support Pelosi holding hundreds of thousands of government employees hostage over a .01 percent budget item?
The US does not negotiate with terrorists. The President is holding the hostages to get something from Congress. I think you are very confused as to who is holding the gun pointed at the heads of the Federal employees affected by this.
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subgenius wrote:Why do you support Pelosi holding hundreds of thousands of government employees hostage over a .01 percent budget item?
Why do you support Trump holding hundreds of thousands of government employees hostage over an ineffective 40 billion dollar boondoggle because he’s afraid of losing his job and making Ann Coulter mad?
Just what are you guys afraid of, here?
What does it matter why we support Trump? or even if we are afraid of anything? you don't care for any reason I might offer, because you have already determined that all things Republican and all things Trump are stupid, racist, and stupid-racist. Why not ask yourself why you support Pelosi's holding hostage these workers because you truly don't care about a single one these not-getting-paid federal employees....at least not more than you care about being just plain ole' anti-Trump. I mean you know why Trump is doing what he is doing....why is Pelosi?....this latter reason is the more embarrassing reason by the way. So yeah, from over here...Pelosi and Schumer are the hostage holders.
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subgenius wrote:So yeah, from over here...Pelosi and Schumer are the hostage holders.
The President tells Congress he won't approve a spending bill that does not include money for a wall that he promised his base. He tells Federal workers they either can't come to work and collect a paycheck, or they must come to work but still do not get to collect a paycheck. His condition for approving a spending bill is getting this wall funded.
How is it possible to reframe that as the Democrat leadership being the ones holding a gun to the heads of Federal workers making the demands?
You're insane.
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subgenius wrote:Why do you support Pelosi holding hundreds of thousands of government employees hostage over a .01 percent budget item?
The US does not negotiate with terrorists.
I agree but someone has to talk to Pelosi.
honorentheos wrote: The President is holding the hostages to get something from Congress.
Nope, Pelosi is holding these workers hostage because of hair-fires like yours. The DNC has nothing as evidenced by their first 3 proposed bills in the wake of their #bluewave, #wasntreallyabluewave.
honorentheos wrote: I think you are very confused as to who is holding the gun pointed at the heads of the Federal employees affected by this.
Nope, Pelosi clearly has the means to free her hostages but she won't because "orange man bad" got her the gavel back and its a long road to 2020, even longer since the DNC is in shambles and has literally no unifying platform other than "Trump Derangement Syndrome for all".
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subgenius wrote:Nope, Pelosi clearly has the means to free her hostages...
This is like saying the US has the money to pay terrorists who take hostages, and therefore guilty of being the hostage takers when we refuse to negotiate with terrorists on principle.
You're damned insane.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
subgenius wrote:So yeah, from over here...Pelosi and Schumer are the hostage holders.
The President tells Congress he won't approve a spending bill that does not include money for a wall that he promised his base. He tells Federal workers they either can't come to work and collect a paycheck, or they must come to work but still do not get to collect a paycheck. His condition for approving a spending bill is getting this wall funded.
How is it possible to reframe that as the Democrat leadership being the ones holding a gun to the heads of Federal workers making the demands?
You're insane.
So far, Pelosi's only reason for not giving the President a .01 percent budget item is because it is "immoral"....yet, I am willing to bet her home has a wall around it. Nevertheless, she can get all these workers paid quite easily because she wasn't elected promising a wall to the American people...in fact, her constituency is not even the country....its one district with some additional babysitting duties in a chamber in D.C.. Point being, Trump is simply doing what he was elected to do...specifically....what is Pelosi doing?
(spoiler alert: Pelosi is holding federal paychecks hostage because guys like you got upset that Hillary Clinton lost to a candidate who slept with a porn star)
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subgenius wrote:Nope, Pelosi clearly has the means to free her hostages...
This is like saying the US has the money to pay terrorists who take hostages, and therefore guilty of being the hostage takers when we refuse to negotiate with terrorists on principle.
You're damned insane.
No, its not like that at all...but thanks for trying to play the "its like this" game....what is wrong with your brain? why can't it be just like what it is?...Pelosi won't fund Trump's wall no matter what the burden to a percentage of federal employees.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent