Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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ajax18 wrote:While I believe that different races of people have different god given gifts, I've never considered any race of people to have fewer God given rights than another. And yet, I'm painted as a white supremacist repeatedly.



Would you like us to review your antics on the Stormfront site? :lol:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/search ... d=22261169


Or maybe we could discuss the implications of your avatar. But why? You'll never change. It's who you are. :wink:
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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Would you like us to review your antics on the Stormfront site? :lol:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/search ... d=22261169



Why are you judging me based on the Stormfront site. I renounced those particular views before which obviously didn't persuade any of you. How about you try to keep to what I've written in this particular thread and argue against my point there?


Or maybe we could discuss the implications of your avatar. But why? You'll never change. It's who you are. :wink:


And this proves my point. As MeDotOrg wrote,

There is a difference between loving your cultural roots and White Supremacy.


But for you there obviously is not and cannot be.
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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ajax18 wrote:But the spin machine on the left labels any demonstration of love for white culture or race as white supremacy.

What are some things that you consider to be "white culture"?


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I renounced those particular views before...

I'm really happy that you have made personal growth in that area. It's always interesting to view who we were from the perspective of who we are, and the inevitable cringe it sometimes (rightfully) causes.

I think I was 19 when there was the first vote in NV to pass an anti-gay marriage amendment. I voted for it. I had gay friends, and I voted for it without hesitation. I honestly didn't see just how hurtful and wrong my views were at the time. It also serves as a reminder to always be looking and listening for areas where I still need to grow.

I am sincerely happy for you that you were able to make personal movement in a direction where you realized that those views were worthy of being renounced. Hopefully this, and many more moments, are but stepping stones (for all of us).
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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ajax18 wrote:
Would you like us to review your antics on the Stormfront site? :lol:

https://www.stormfront.org/forum/search ... d=22261169



Why are you judging me based on the Stormfront site. I renounced those particular views before which obviously didn't persuade any of you. How about you try to keep to what I've written in this particular thread and argue against my point there?


Or maybe we could discuss the implications of your avatar. But why? You'll never change. It's who you are. :wink:


And this proves my point. As MeDotOrg wrote,

There is a difference between loving your cultural roots and White Supremacy.


But for you there obviously is not and cannot be.


It's called "history". Some of us pay attention to it. You have a history that provides information about you. We get to process that information. You get to agree with that or not. And so here we are.

But forget the past? You're the one admiring old slavers. :lol:
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/30/opin ... ction.html

As I watched the televised 2016 presidential debates, listening to the then-candidate Donald Trump arguing various points with Hillary Clinton, a chill went down my spine. I was in the middle of writing a new play, a comic parody of white supremacist fiction. With his hyperbolic attacks on immigrants and minorities — African-Americans “living in hell,” Latino “gangs roaming the street” and insinuations that a long list of Jewish philanthropists and politicians was conspiring against him — Mr. Trump sounded like a character straight out of my research.

Trump’s habit of echoing the racist far right is now well-known, but back then, everyone was unsure of what was even happening, let alone what to call it. Two years later — after Richard Spencer, after Charlottesville — the public has heard a lot about white supremacist culture. But I’d argue that we haven’t quite heard enough. To understand their ideologies and why they support this president so strongly, we need to examine their literature.

The books act as a kind of binding agent, a Bible-like codification of basic principles that underpin the various denominations. And yet, for understandable reasons, they remain largely unknown. Journalists are inclined to avoid name-checking the books publicly, for fear of inadvertently promoting them. This is no longer a winning strategy. Heidi Beirich, who tracks far-right hate groups for the Southern Poverty Law Center, agrees. “We needed to have been talking about these books for decades,” she asserts. “They’re very influential, they’re reaching the highest levels of power, they’re having an impact on terrorism, on policy, and so on. Not talking about them is just wrong.” So, let’s talk.

Most of the books are self-published. Others are distributed by small, activist imprints or the publishing arms of white nationalist organizations. They are sold online, at gun shows or person to person. This scattershot distribution system makes it hard to track sales, but the more popular titles are estimated to have sold hundreds of thousands of copies. I acquired some out-of-print titles from rare book dealers. They are dog-eared, annotated and often inscribed.

The genre ranges broadly in tone and topic, from dark, foreboding dramas to broad, slapstick comedies; from neo-Confederate romances to futuristic dystopian nightmares. They’re dangerous and disgusting, for sure, but they’re also absurdly stupid and, on the whole, very badly written. As a playwright who specializes in edgy humor, I find them endlessly fascinating. Their vocabulary of broad stereotypes, paranoid fantasies and preposterous global-takeover schemes is the stuff comedy is made of.

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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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ajax18 wrote:
There is a difference between loving your cultural roots and White Supremacy.


Absolutely there is. But the spin machine on the left labels any demonstration of love for white culture or race as white supremacy.

But what does that mean? What does that translate into? I’m serious about my question above. How would you answer that?
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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ajax18 wrote:I don't think anyone should be able to force a person to marry and reproduce children outside their race.


Surprise! Nor does anyone on this board, or anyone in the whole wide world known to me! (Even using your skin-colour race definition.)

Where did you get that idea from?
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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To somewhat piggy-back off Chap...

ajax18 wrote:I don't think anyone should be able to force a person to marry and reproduce children outside their race.

In my opinion, this stands much better without the struck out portion, and even better with just the bold portion.

And I believe you'd likely find only a very (very, very, very...) small amount of people within the entire political spectrum who would disagree. And that very small amount of people would be turds.
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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And I believe you'd likely find only a very (very, very, very...) small amount of people within the entire political spectrum who would disagree. And that very small amount of people would be turds.

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EAllusion sees my unwillingness to marry outside my race as the epitome of racism and is white supremacism. He's said so, and nobody here disagreed with him.
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Re: Since when is being a white supremacist a bad thing?

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ajax18 wrote:
And I believe you'd likely find only a very (very, very, very...) small amount of people within the entire political spectrum who would disagree. And that very small amount of people would be turds.

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EAllusion sees my unwillingness to marry outside my race as the epitome of racism and is white supremacism. He's said so, and nobody here disagreed with him.



Condemning you for expressing that it is immoral to marry outside your race is not the same thing as "forcing you to marry outside your race." They're not even close.
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