Civil War 2.0 - a conservative wet dream?
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Civil War 2.0 - a conservative wet dream?
https://prospect.org/article/second-american-civil-war
From the article:
Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Right-wing social media call for war. As insurrection spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”
Or it’s November 2020 and Trump has lost the election. He charges voter fraud, claiming that the “deep state” organized tens of millions of illegal immigrants to vote against him, and says he has an obligation not to step down. Demonstrations and riots ensue. Trump commands the armed forces to put them down.
If these sound far-fetched, consider Trump’s torrent of lies, his admiration for foreign dictators, his off-hand jokes about being “president for life” (Xi Xinping “was able to do that,” he told admirers in March. “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day.”), and his increasing invocation of a “deep state” plot against him.
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Other interesting developments, in Amazon's fiction:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/09728 ... bl_vppi_i0
https://www.amazon.com/Day-Rope-Days/dp ... ERC6AP17Y8
https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Republic ... ERC6AP17Y8
And, of course, local Mormon martyr Lavoy Finicum's:
https://www.amazon.com/Only-Blood-Suffe ... ds=finicum
These partisan porn fantasy novels are all based around an eventual apocalypse where conservatives rise up and murder liberals en masse. An interesting sort of dogma and surprisingly consistent. We are seeing a whole industry of malignant imaginings along the lines of The Turner Diaries, which inspired Timothy McVeigh and others to murder and treason.
From the article:
Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Right-wing social media call for war. As insurrection spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”
Or it’s November 2020 and Trump has lost the election. He charges voter fraud, claiming that the “deep state” organized tens of millions of illegal immigrants to vote against him, and says he has an obligation not to step down. Demonstrations and riots ensue. Trump commands the armed forces to put them down.
If these sound far-fetched, consider Trump’s torrent of lies, his admiration for foreign dictators, his off-hand jokes about being “president for life” (Xi Xinping “was able to do that,” he told admirers in March. “I think it’s great. Maybe we’ll give that a shot some day.”), and his increasing invocation of a “deep state” plot against him.
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Other interesting developments, in Amazon's fiction:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/09728 ... bl_vppi_i0
https://www.amazon.com/Day-Rope-Days/dp ... ERC6AP17Y8
https://www.amazon.com/Peoples-Republic ... ERC6AP17Y8
And, of course, local Mormon martyr Lavoy Finicum's:
https://www.amazon.com/Only-Blood-Suffe ... ds=finicum
These partisan porn fantasy novels are all based around an eventual apocalypse where conservatives rise up and murder liberals en masse. An interesting sort of dogma and surprisingly consistent. We are seeing a whole industry of malignant imaginings along the lines of The Turner Diaries, which inspired Timothy McVeigh and others to murder and treason.
"God" is the original deus ex machina. --Maksutov
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If you ever listen to religious right radio, pining for liberals to be murdered en masse, usually in the context of a revolt or civil war justifying it, has become an increasingly popular theme. It's weird such a large and influential segment of American culture is filled with the kind of serious/not-serious blood-lust that precedes genocides and we react to it mostly by ignoring it.
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EAllusion wrote:If you ever listen to religious right radio, pining for liberals to be murdered en masse, usually in the context of a revolt or civil war justifying it, has become an increasingly popular theme. It's weird such a large and influential segment of American culture is filled with the kind of serious/not-serious blood-lust that precedes genocides and we react to it mostly by ignoring it.
Amazon has claimed to remove white supremacist merchandise from sales but allows this. The politics of resentment are latently homicidal. The lynch gene has not been eradicated.
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Maksutov wrote:Imagine that an impeachment resolution against Trump passes the House. Trump claims it’s the work of the “deep state.” Fox News’s Sean Hannity demands every honest patriot take to the streets. Right-wing social media call for war. As insurrection spreads, Trump commands the armed forces to side with the “patriots.”
As a scoundrel, there are many options open to Trump to fight impeachment effort. Trump supporters are already revolting, but calling them to full-scale insurrection is terrifying.
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Yet most here are fine with restaurants refusing to serve people wearing a MAGA hat, since they equate it with a swatizka. The left has been criminalizing political opinion for a long time now.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:Yet most here are fine with restaurants refusing to serve people wearing a MAGA hat, since they equate it with a swatizka. The left has been criminalizing political opinion for a long time now.
So whatabout whatabout whatabout?
Show me the leftist work of fiction that indisputably inspired murder multiple times in modern America. You know about McVeigh and Mathews. Right? But maybe you don't think that what they did was murder.

You enjoyed your copy of the Turner Diaries. Admit it. You love imagining the screaming deaths of those snotty knowitall liberals. Or Jews. Or blacks. Or women with attitude. This is your genre. Militant racist treason, as per your avatar. We see you.

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Show me the leftist work of fiction that indisputably inspired murder multiple times in modern America. You know about McVeigh and Mathews. Right? But maybe you don't think that what they did was murder.
How about the work of Obama's close friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn?
How about the Koran? What about what the mainstream media has done that has caused multiple violent attacks upon people under suspicion of having voted for DJT?
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:Show me the leftist work of fiction that indisputably inspired murder multiple times in modern America. You know about McVeigh and Mathews. Right? But maybe you don't think that what they did was murder.
How about the work of Obama's close friends Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn?
Show me the casualties. I can show you Oklahoma City. I can show you Berg dead in the driveway outside his house. I can show you forums devoted to racist anarchy that you've belonged to. We see you. Whatabout all you want. You run from the OP. You run from objective reality. You run from the past.

The south lost. Endless lies and fantasies in denial of that fact achieving nothing but a festering division that serves only the nurturing of old resentments. We all have morons and creeps in our ancestry. It's up to us to do better.
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ajax18 wrote:How about the Koran?
Setting aside all the other crazy in the post, this is a serious doubletake association you are making. "What about the Koran?" is your reply to Mak asking, "Show me the leftist work of fiction that indisputably inspired murder multiple times in modern America"?
Uh, that's absolutely bananas to associate a 7th Century religious text with the American political left. Absolutely bananas.
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Rather than start a different thread I'm just going to tuck this one here:
https://www.newsweek.com/ruth-bader-gin ... mp-1314168
The reason why this is a thing is because there seems to be some chatter going around in Conservative circles that a 3rd Trump appointment to Supreme Court will kick off the much anticipated 2nd American Civil War.
I suppose since the 1st Great American Race War never materialized some our far right Conservative friends are hyping the ACWII. I guess owning all those AR-15s really gets their patriotic red blood flowing.
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https://www.newsweek.com/ruth-bader-gin ... mp-1314168
On January 5, Q, the anonymous user or users behind QAnon, wrote on its website: "What 'off-market' drugs are being provided to [Ruth Bader Ginsburg] in order to sustain minimum daily function? What is the real medical diagnosis of [Ruth Bader Ginsburg]? Who is managing her care? Who is 'really' managing her care?”
Trump supporter Jacob Wohl, known for his alleged defrauding of investors and subsequent ban from futures trading, and who failed in an attempt to smear special counsel Robert Mueller with a sexual assault hoax, has also been fueling the conspiracy. Wohl previously claimed that Ginsburg would resign on January 11. When this did not come to pass, he switched to pushing the claim that her death was being kept secret.
The reason why this is a thing is because there seems to be some chatter going around in Conservative circles that a 3rd Trump appointment to Supreme Court will kick off the much anticipated 2nd American Civil War.
I suppose since the 1st Great American Race War never materialized some our far right Conservative friends are hyping the ACWII. I guess owning all those AR-15s really gets their patriotic red blood flowing.
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.