Markk wrote:Do you you share this attitude toward the Russia investigation?
I certainly do. It would be great to hear more Republicans in congress disowning the Trump nonsense about (Republican) Robert Mueller's sober and methodical enquiry being a 'witch-hunt', don't you think?
So Markk is Chap correct that Robert Mueller is a republican, and also who started this investigation?
Chap wrote: I certainly do. It would be great to hear more Republicans in congress disowning the Trump nonsense about (Republican) Robert Mueller's sober and methodical enquiry being a 'witch-hunt', don't you think?
Your response is the exact thing in which Horonentheos was getting at. I just don't think what he suggested is possible in today's atmosphere.
Don't take life so seriously in that " sooner or later we are just old men in funny clothes" "Tom 'T-Bone' Wolk"
honorentheos wrote:This gets at something I find deeply problematic in American politics - the view that it's a My Team v. Your Team arrangement where there are two sides locked in a zero sum game. This leads to all sorts of problems.
As to the OP, Democrats have been coming out publicly condemning her statements. Perhaps that is the take away you should grab onto, Ajax. Having principles, and letting them Trump partisan politics, is a good first step in having a functioning democractic society.
Do you you share this attitude toward the Russia investigation?
The Russian election meddling operation was a sophisticated attack against the West. This operation was funded through Russian fronts, including a catering company run by a close friend of Putin, Yevgeny Prigozhin. They used stolen American identities. Operatives bought political ads on social media sites. Operatives visited the United States, traveled across 9 states and discussed escape routes if they were caught inside the country. Operatives bought equipment including burner phones and SIM cards. The operation included hundreds of employees and millions of dollars. Prigozhin funded the Internet Research Agency and their meddling of the American election. This was a sophisticated operation that spanned over several years. Prigozhin has been Putin's go to guy for under the table missions including recruiting mercenaries for the conflicts in Ukraine and Syria.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Markk wrote:Do you you share this attitude toward the Russia investigation?
The Russian election meddling operation was a sophisticated attack against the West. This operation was funded through Russian fronts, including a catering company run by a close friend of Putin, Yevgeny Prigozhin. They used stolen American identities. Operatives bought political ads on social media sites. Operatives visited the United States, traveled across 9 states and discussed escape routes if they were caught inside the country. Operatives bought equipment including burner phones and SIM cards. The operation included hundreds of employees and millions of dollars. Prigozhin funded the Internet Research Agency and their meddling of the American election. This was a sophisticated operation that spanned over several years. Prigozhin has been Putin's go to guy for under the table missions including recruiting mercenaries for the conflicts in Ukraine and Syria.
- Doc
Russia is playing for keeps. Wake up, Republicans.
Markk wrote:95% of the posters on this forum are ready to hang Trump as a spy for Russia, without any real proof.
Er, no. You exaggerate more than a little here. By doing that, you make a reasonable discussion difficult to hold. And you're the guy that thinks there is an 'atmosphere' around in politics nowadays?
Markk wrote:This whole thing is being feed by the left.
Of course. Mueller (a Republican) is clearly a left-wing mole. So are the grand juries that have handed down indictments during this investigation, and the judges that have heard the cases and sent people to jail as a result.
I mean, what other explanation could there be? Oh, wait ...
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Themis wrote:So Markk is Chap correct that Robert Mueller is a republican, and also who started this investigation?
Yes...and?
Really You cannot figure out the and? If Mueller is a republican in charge of this investigation and he was given this responsibility by republicans why should we think they are unfairly going after Trump?
95% of the posters on this forum are ready to hang Trump as a spy for Russia, without any real proof. This whole thing is being feed by the left.
We will see.
Not just the left, but also by intelligence services who are generally considered more conservative then liberal. I would note democrats haven't yet tried to impeach Trump and seem to be waiting for the investigation to complete. They have been starting their own investigations now they have the power to do so, but why not. There is a lot of smoke. The one thing about this Mueller investigation is that it is not yet complete and is getting a lot of indictments and guilty pleas. I suspect if nothing bad was going on we wouldn't see any of that.
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:The Russian election meddling operation was a sophisticated attack against the West. This operation was funded through Russian fronts, including a catering company run by a close friend of Putin, Yevgeny Prigozhin. They used stolen American identities. Operatives bought political ads on social media sites. Operatives visited the United States, traveled across 9 states and discussed escape routes if they were caught inside the country. Operatives bought equipment including burner phones and SIM cards. The operation included hundreds of employees and millions of dollars. Prigozhin funded the Internet Research Agency and their meddling of the American election. This was a sophisticated operation that spanned over several years. Prigozhin has been Putin's go to guy for under the table missions including recruiting mercenaries for the conflicts in Ukraine and Syria.
- Doc
It’s kind of weird that something so trivial and silly would be the catalyst that made me realize the extent of the Russian operation; but, when I found a reference to this float buried in one of Mueller’s first indictments against Russian operatives, it was a “whoa-Nelly” moment for me.
(Russian operatives made this cage/float, and paid an American citizen to dress up in Hilary prison gear during the campaign.)
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
