Could you imagine if a white kid did this to a black kid?

[_Kevin Graham]

Sure. Even in the South, every single time a white kid has picked on a black kid it's been national news, dominating the news cycles for days. It's been that way since at least 1957.

Hell, I went to a school that didn't allow black kids until around 1990. And then when we moved to Atlanta in 1987, the school had probably 180 black kids out of 3,500. I can think of at least three beat downs of black kids that happened right off the top of my head. No big deal. Unless a black kid assaults a white kid or worse, a white female, then it becomes the outrage of the month. This is what drove Trump to condemn black teens raping a white woman even though they were innocent. The mere thought of this happening to a white woman was enough to drive him into such a rage that he'd pay for a full page NYT AD calling for their execution.

Even today it is pretty sad. A mom in our neighborhood posted a text exchange she got off her son's phone. She is white, her husband is black and obviously the kids are mixed. Some bigot kid was calling her son Tyson the N word in such a "no big deal" kinda way it was shocking. The exchange went something like this.

Bigot: yeah, I think you're a N****R.
Tyson: OK
Bigot: I guess that makes me an asshole huh.
Tyson: yeah
Bigot: I just don't like N****Relief Society, that is how I was raised. But you seem pretty cool I guess.
Tyson: OK

[_ajax18]

Well, I'm just pointing out how we need to pull back from the rhetoric that leads to this kind of behavior, and I hope we do so before widespread violence occurs. The problem with grievances is that they're recursive and once someone gets violent a new grudge is created and, as people do, they tend not to let it go without seeking retribution.

I'd rather see debate and ideas win or lose in an exchange of words rather than fists.

- Doc

I can see lawsuits and taking someone's job being far worse than fists, maybe even worse than guns. Our adversarial legal system may be considered civilized but ultimately it's still just a fight.

[_ajax18]

I seem to recall a white Trumper at the rally who sucker punched a black guy who was leaving peacefully. A black kid rips away some political paraphernalia from a white kid, and suddenly it is about race not politics, and all things are equal again? Are you suggesting white kids don't do these things?

Yes tell us. How would this be treated in the media if a white kid were to do these things? Your idea of justice is ridiculiusly unfair and one sided.

[_Analytics]

Context, Analytics. Context.

- Doc

Exactly.

It turns out that the black kid is being severely punished for this and is being summed to court and will likely be charged with assault.

So what would happen if a white kid did this? The propogandists at Fox would make this overaction the story of the week and would claim that the only reason the punishment was so disproportionately severe was because the hypothetical white kid pushed a hypothetical black kid. In that universe, you would have started a thread about how the school and courts were overreacting to a minor little push because the perp was white, and that if the perp had been black he might get chewed out by the principal and maybe his mother would get a call, but otherwise that would be the end of it.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

I still haven't heard a peep about this on any mainstream media outlets. So... I have no idea what you're getting at, Analytics, other than, I guess, that it's the toll America is paying for its historical wrongs.

And you're comfortable with that.

- Doc

[_canpakes]

I still haven't heard a peep about this on any mainstream media outlets. So... I have no idea what you're getting at, Analytics, other than, I guess, that it's the toll America is paying for its historical wrongs.

And you're comfortable with that.

- Doc

If comparing this to the Sandman incident, perhaps we need to wait for the twittosphere to explode about it, and for it to then register on the forefront of the national psyche. Isn’t that how the so-called ‘mainstream media’ was drawn into reporting on the incident - as a phenomenon, as opposed to the mainstream media being a primary source of information on the actual standoff? It’s not like any mainstream media entity sourced it or reported on it prior to that point, correct?

[_Analytics]

I still haven't heard a peep about this on any mainstream media outlets. So... I have no idea what you're getting at, Analytics, other than, I guess, that it's the toll America is paying for its historical wrongs.

And you're comfortable with that.

- Doc

Judging from the video, what we have here is a black high school kid picking on a white high school kid in a high school hallway because the black kid didn't like the white kid's Trump costume.

Comparing what is depicted in the video to my own high school experience in the 1980's in Sandy Utah, back then things more intimidating and violent happened every single week throughout my high school career. On the rare occasions when somebody got caught, it was handled by the principal. Parents would be called. You'd get suspended for a day or two. And that was it.

On this occasion, there were no bloody noses. No black eyes. Nobody was beaten to a pulp and lying on the floor drifting in and out of unconsciousness urinating in their own pants, as I saw in my school on multiple occasions. It was an extremely brief, non-violent event. Yet, the perpetrator--a black student--needs to go before a judge and could face criminal charges for this.

You think this story would be considered newsworthy if the races were reversed. I find that preposterous--nothing happened. There is nothing newsworthy about it. If the event were talked about for 5 minutes in a school assembly that would be too much. Again, nothing happened.

Yet you think this non-event not being covered by the national news is somehow the price America is paying for its historical wrongs??

I had lunch at McDonald's yesterday and they got my order wrong. I assert that if such a terrible thing would have happened to a black man, it would have made the national news! It would have been the beginning of a movement! But my wrong order is being ignored by everybody. That is a tragedy, but I suppose it is the toll America is paying for its historical wrongs.

[_EAllusion]

Stuff like this happens all the time, but every once in a a while coverage of it snowballs and snowballs until it is a national outrage. It’s really hard to know which story will ascend to national coverage in advance because it is a chaotic process. Sometimes a trans woman exploding in a store receives a lot of coverage. Sometimes it is a woman going on a racist rant against Spanish speakers in a restaurant. And, strangely, sometimes those happen and it is ignored.

I can see how this would distort one’s sense of coverage priorities. Why this one instead of that one? However, it is highly dubious to claim that the media, meaning national newspapers, cable and network news, and major online news sites, is heavily slanted to covering outrages that involve mistreatment of minorities or only what liberals care about.

[_Kevin Graham]

Stuff like this happens all the time, but every once in a a while coverage of it snowballs and snowballs until it is a national outrage. It’s really hard to know which story will ascend to national coverage in advance because it is a chaotic process. Sometimes a trans woman exploding in a store receives a lot of coverage. Sometimes it is a woman going on a racist rant against Spanish speakers in a restaurant. And, strangely, sometimes those happen and it is ignored.

I can see how this would distort one’s sense of coverage priorities. Why this one instead of that one? However, it is highly dubious to claim that the media, meaning national newspapers, cable and network news, and major online news sites, is heavily slanted to covering outrages that involve mistreatment of minorities or only what liberals care about.

I like how the outlets that complain about this not getting more coverage are the most ridiculously biased media outlets known to man.

I mean seriously. There isn't a single "news story" on Daily Caller, Hot Air, The Federalist, etc that isn't cherry picked specifically for its value in pushing a Right Wing narrative of some sort. In this instance, the meme that Liberals are the really violent people, not the innocent Trump supporters. When Trump supporters do this kind of crap, they ignore it entirely. The Washington Post reported on the incident at Berkley and the Right Wing media still complained that they were a day too late. As if they didn't only know about it because of traction provided by Right Wing social media days later.

I mean if this kid murdered or even punched him knocking him out I can see how it could make national news, but seriously, some kid bullying another kid caught on video is the kind of crap we could watch literally every day if the news really wanted to focus on that stuff. But the reason it is gaining traction is only because Right Wing media actively seeks these kinds of "stories" and video clips and then puts them on their front page with the subtext, "When will CNN report this?"

Meanwhile these same outlets are posting old conspiracy theories about Hillary and ignoring Cohen's live testimony. Yah, we know where the real bias is.

[_ajax18]

I mean if this kid murdered or even punched him knocking him out I can see how it could make national news, but seriously, some kid bullying another kid caught on video is the kind of ____ we could watch literally every day if the news really wanted to focus on that stuff.

Bullying is no big deal and since he was wearing a MAGA hat, he deserved it right? We see how you and EAllusion treat anyone who doesn't follow the liberal narrative of ignoring black on white crime while blowing up inflammatory stories of white on black crime. It doesn't surprise me that in your world bullying is no big deal, unless of course it's white on black.