3rd Trimester Abortions and Organ Harvesting

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Re: 3rd Trimester Abortions and Organ Harvesting

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/pp-abortion-harvest-brain/

What's True

According to unedited Center for Medical Progress video reviewed by the Los Angeles Times, the heart of an aborted fetus was briefly restarted before its brain was harvested.


:eek: Why in the world was the baby's heart 're-started' ? IT'S BRAIN WAS "HARVESTED"?!? :eek:

- Doc


To keep the brain alive. (Blood flowing through the brain).
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If the brain is alive isn't the baby alive?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:If the brain is alive isn't the baby alive?

- Doc


You know me, right? I don't mind discussing most any topic. This one makes me want to run out of the room screaming in my head never to return.

IANAD. I don't know what the laws are regarding organ harvesting in this case. I don't know specifically what the law states regarding harvesting stem cells in this case. I don't know what ethics are involved.

If I had to take a random stab at offering up a morbid (yet possibly medically feasible?) scenario, I'd say that the infant was already dead due to cardiac arrest, time of death called, and then they started the heart immediately there after to ensure blood flow to the brain for what reason I don't know, but I do think there needs to be blood flow for most organs to be harvested in a timely manner so they keep everything cooking, as it were, in the mean time.

I don't know what procedure was used to terminate the fetus. I don't WANT to know what procedure was used. I don't know if the procedure used eliminates the possibility of cardiac death, time of death called, heart restarted immediately thereafter and then harvesting of organs scenario or if the reports are true or false.

I basically don't know anything at all. Write that down.

But thanks for raising the topic on this wonderfully dark, dismal, frozen in the house Sunday. This was perfection. Going to scream in my head now.
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Jersey Girl wrote:IANAD.

"IANAD" = "I am not a doctor?"
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:IANAD.

"IANAD" = "I am not a doctor?"


STOP. IT.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Dr. Shades wrote:"IANAD" = "I am not a doctor?"


STOP. IT.

Wait, Jersey Girl. In Shade's defense, this follows pretty closely to an older common message board abbreviation:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL
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canpakes wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:STOP. IT.

Wait, Jersey Girl. In Shade's defense, this follows pretty closely to an older common message board abbreviation:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IANAL


Oh yah?

I don't think it's too steep a request to ask Mr. Stranger to Context to stop it. For all we know, he's compiling a list for the auto correct thingy to change our posts.

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Fence Sitter wrote:... as if a mother can simply decide after the baby is born to toss it into the dumpster, is simply not what is going on.

can you clarify this?... as in what is "going on"?
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moksha wrote:Alex Jones: THEY'RE HARVESTING BABIES!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NKiII9yXW8&feature=youtu.be


Yep, of course. The source of all this insanity.
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