Two Parkland Survivors have committed suicide.

[_Maksutov]

Wait a minute. My eyeroll is for the folks who DON'T give a damn.

Understand, people? If I didn't care about this I would never bring it up. Jesus H. Christ. What kind of hair triggers are y'all on, anyway?

[_Maksutov]

Anybody else here give a ____?

Damn, dude. I'm not a snowflake or anything, but even I thought that was exceptionally insensitive.

Look below at my second post.

[_Maksutov]

Anybody else here give a ____?

First I want to know how you can effectively roll your eyes at this issue?

Yes, I give more ____ than I care to admit. I believe I wrote about this on a thread about Parkland students where I discussed PTSD, early treatment, depression/anxiety and ideation of suicide in reference to not only the Parkland students but their families as well, and I wrote about how the shooter replicated himself (mental health wise) hundreds of times over. I, in fact, know I did and I remember writing about it.

I give a ____ because I have a family member who witnessed the violent suicide by another family member who didn't receive treatment that very night and who in the aftermath suffered from PTSD and all the recurrent and issues that I listed above, and whose recovery took all of seven years. Seven years.

I know what it's like not to understand trauma until you look in the face of it and realize that your loved one truly is not there. I know what the ramifications of not having immediate early treatment for mental shock are and even when one receives immediate treatment, there is no guarantee that the life they hold will be spared.

Yes, I definitely do give a ____ that a mentally ill person perpetrated an act that did then and will forever impact the lives of all involved for the rest of their lives whether they were Parkland survivors or suicide survivors which the parents, family, and friends become with each subsequent suicide.

How could you roll your eyes at loss of life? Loss of potential? Loss of a future life that could have contributed to society? Loss of everything a young person or their family thought and dreamed that the future held for them or what their lives would be like?

How could you roll your eyes.

Slow down. I'm on the March for Our Lives action list. You're misreading. See my second post.

[_Lemmie]

I do. It's beyond words. There were 3 suicides at one of my son's colleges this academic year. He knew all three of the girls and is struggling mightily with the situation, so I can only imagine how damaging the Parkland situation is. The effect of the murders and now the suicides is horrifying. my heart goes out to those families.

Lemmie, I’m so sorry your son is going through this. A terrible thing for a young person to live through.

Thank you so much. It's complicated by the fact that these were women at a smaller, mostly male, very academically competitive school. The women were accomplished and well-involved, in sports, academics, student politics, sororities, etc. What were they feeling that generated hopelessness to the point of suicide?

[_Lemmie]

I do. It's beyond words. There were 3 suicides at one of my son's colleges this academic year. He knew all three of the girls and is struggling mightily with the situation, so I can only imagine how damaging the Parkland situation is. The effect of the murders and now the suicides is horrifying. my heart goes out to those families.

Don't see this as a request or provocation to provide details. Talk therapy if it's not already happening. Information about complicated grief and suicide survivors. If panic attacks are part of the equation, send me a PM and I'll mention a solution to consider.

Thank you for your concern, I know it's a sensitive issue for you, so it's very kind to reach out. The school has been great about providing assistance.

[_Jersey Girl]

Wait a minute. My eyeroll is for the folks who DON'T give a damn.

Understand, people? If I didn't care about this I would never bring it up. Jesus H. Christ. What kind of hair triggers are y'all on, anyway?

Instead of noting what you see has hair triggers, you might noted the shittily written Op that supplied the missing detail that you have just provided.

Hair triggers. Nice touch.

[_Jersey Girl]

Thank you for your concern, I know it's a sensitive issue for you, so it's very kind to reach out. The school has been great about providing assistance.

I'm compelled by a force inside of me that makes me reach out. I know how difficult it is to try to desperately grasp for a life that has already slipped through one's hands and what the effort might involve trying to prevent that from happening to a family member. That the school is providing assistance is reassuring and I hope that the survivors needs are being addressed individually and also in groups--shared experience.

It's a horrible life altering thing.

[_Dr. Shades]

Wait a minute. My eyeroll is for the folks who DON'T give a ____.

Okay, but what makes you think there are people who don't give a ____?

[_Maksutov]

Wait a minute. My eyeroll is for the folks who DON'T give a ____.

Okay, but what makes you think there are people who don't give a ____?

The fact that I'd seen no other commentary on the subject here recently, for one.

[_MeDotOrg]

Anybody else here give a damn?

Maksutov, I've stayed out of the back and forth on this, but I have to say, your phrasing made you come off a little self-righteous.

Anybody else (like me) here (in this discussion group) give a damn?

After reading your explanation, I what you were trying to say, but your OP sounds more like a haughty dismissal of anyone who has not yet noted their sadness in writing. And that's not your normal modus operandi here.