EAllusion wrote:... But hopes aren't always realized.
I had hoped my last 15 minutes of investigation would prove that you are a murderer, but alas i could not find sufficient evidence...clearly you're not exonerated from my accusation and my hope remains unrealized.
Seek freedom and become captive of your desires...seek discipline and find your liberty I can tell if a person is judgmental just by looking at them what is chaos to the fly is normal to the spider - morticia addams If you're not upsetting idiots, you might be an idiot. - Ted Nugent
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
EAllusion wrote:... But hopes aren't always realized.
I had hoped my last 15 minutes of investigation would prove that you are a murderer, but alas i could not find sufficient evidence...clearly you're not exonerated from my accusation and my hope remains unrealized.
My hope refers to wanting the news to accurately report a story. Definitely comparable to wanting to find someone guilty of murder.
My prediction is that there will be a chunk of the report that never makes it public; even if Democrats somehow found a way to force its full release.
Releasing everything would likely tip our hand to the Russians. Even though the President has already compromised American intelligent sources in the past, I think the adults in the room will realize that portions of the report could potentially do the same.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
Kevin Graham wrote:This tweet is enough to piss me off. Was Mueller investigating a straw man this whole time? I think Seth Abramson is right. I don't recall ever hearing anyone argue, even jokingly, that Trump did this.
We are now being told that *Mueller never investigated* the collusion allegation Trump was facing—on a money-for-sanctions-relief quid pro quo—and *instead* investigated the allegation *as Trump saw it*, which was whether he struck an agreement with the IRA or Russian hackers.
For two years, as Trump's team defined the collusion allegation against him *falsely*—saying he'd been accused of striking a secret accord with the Internet Research Agency and/or Russian hackers before-the-fact—his critics shrugged and said, "Yeah, we're not looking at that."
On this collusion allegation no one was even making against Trump, the Special Counsel *didn't* find "no evidence"—which I would've been fine with, as I've never accused Trump of that type of collusion—he actually just found he didn't have 90%+ proof of that form of collusion.
This isn't backpedaling: *anyone* who reads this feed—or anyone else researching and reporting on collusion—will *know* that we did *not* accuse Trump of striking a *secret deal with the IRA or Russian hackers before-the-fact*, and that "collusion" has *never* been about that.
...So what's my reaction to today's news? Well, I thought there was *no* evidence Trump colluded *via secret agreement with the IRA or Russian hackers*—I always said that—so *now* I want to know why Mueller said he wasn't able to "exonerate" Trump on that allegation. I mean—wow.
I believe that Mueller’s statement about exoneration applied to obstruction and not collusion.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Doctor Steuss wrote:My prediction is that there will be a chunk of the report that never makes it public; even if Democrats somehow found a way to force its full release.
Releasing everything would likely tip our hand to the Russians. Even though the President has already compromised American intelligent sources in the past, I think the adults in the room will realize that portions of the report could potentially do the same.
Oh, agree. Information that would compromise sources and methods or would interfere with other ongoing investigations should not be disclosed. When people say that the report should be disclosed, I think that’s generally assumed.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Doctor Steuss wrote:My prediction is that there will be a chunk of the report that never makes it public; even if Democrats somehow found a way to force its full release.
Releasing everything would likely tip our hand to the Russians. Even though the President has already compromised American intelligent sources in the past, I think the adults in the room will realize that portions of the report could potentially do the same.
My understanding is that the Office of the AG is going through the report precisely with this aim in mind. It makes sense.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
Res Ipsa wrote:Oh, agree. Information that would compromise sources and methods or would interfere with other ongoing investigations should not be disclosed. When people say that the report should be disclosed, I think that’s generally assumed.
honorentheos wrote:My understanding is that the Office of the AG is going through the report precisely with this aim in mind. It makes sense.
The unfortunate thing about this is that it will give endless fuel to conspiracy theorists on both sides.
I admittedly will have an irksome bit of it myself; wondering if anything was withheld under the guise of "national security," that was politically unsavory. It doesn't help when the AG is a loyalist for the dude that is incapable of honesty.
"Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead." ~Charles Bukowski
