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One of my favorites (YMMV)

"What is Intersectionality?"

https://youtu.be/rc7VUoytoU4
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I suggest this as an alternative:

https://www.khanacademy.org/
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Odds are, if you think America is forgetting God to it's detriment, you will find PragerU appealing.
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honorentheos wrote:
Odds are, if you think America is forgetting God to it's detriment, you will find PragerU appealing.


Odds are, if you support the University of Pennsylvania's decision to remove a portrait of Shakespeare and replace it with a portrait of a black-lesbian poet, you will not find PragerU appealing.

Odds are, if you light up with pride at the opportunity to literally crap on or urinate on America (The working gold toilet exhibit at a New York museum titled "America" where you have the opportunity to do just that), you will not find PragerU appealing.

Odds are, if you want to eliminate free speech in this country and/or if you are fairly intolerant of any ideas/views/perspectives that are different from yours, you will not find PragerU appealing.

Odds are, if this video angers you, by Professor Jordan Peterson, on post-modernists who push aggressive activism across the USA https://youtu.be/LquIQisaZFU, you will not find PragerU appealing.
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So how many people donated so far? Remember, donations are currently being tripled!
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Ceebs, indulge me for a bit, since you’re listing examples ...

Ceeboo wrote:Odds are, if you light up with pride at the opportunity to literally crap on or urinate on America (The working gold toilet exhibit at a New York museum titled "America" where you have the opportunity to do just that), you will not find PragerU appealing.

(bolding mine)

This ‘exhibit’ was indeed an actual toilet. It was on display at the Guggenheim for a short while but was removed back in September, 2017.

Allow me to augment your short description - laced as it is with a certain cynical assumption - to post two small excerpts concerning this gold toilet:

If you ever wanted to sit on a golden throne, now is the time to do it as the famed Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in New York invited visitors to use the bathroom at "America," an exhibit by Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan.

"America" is a fully functional gold toilet and has been on display for about a year.

More than 100,000 museum visitors have waited in line to use the popular installation, which is made out of 100 percent 18-karat gold .

The artwork, based on the museum's standard Kohler toilets, makes "available to the public an extravagant luxury product seemingly intended for the 1 percent," according to its label.


Cattelan’s toilet offers a wink to the excesses of the art market but also evokes the American dream of opportunity for all—its utility ultimately reminding us of the inescapable physical realities of our shared humanity.


Now, I really don’t care about this working gold toilet one way or the other. But finding it within your list illustrates the problem that I see with Prager, and the consumers of his own work. So I now have two questions for you:

1. Is it possible that Prager just doesn’t understand, or wishes to misrepresent, what this exhibit was all about?

2. Can you tell me what your issues are with the display?

Thanks. : )
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Ceeboo wrote:Odds are, if you want to eliminate free speech in this country and/or if you are fairly intolerant of any ideas/views/perspectives that are different from yours, you will not find PragerU appealing.

I guess you're one of the exceptions, then?
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canpakes wrote:Ceebs, indulge me for a bit, since you’re listing examples ...

Okay.

This ‘exhibit’ was indeed an actual toilet. It was on display at the Guggenheim for a short while but was removed back in September, 2017.

Allow me to augment your short description - laced as it is with a certain cynical assumption - to post two small excerpts concerning this gold toilet:

If you ever wanted to sit on a golden throne, now is the time to do it as the famed Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum in New York invited visitors to use the bathroom at "America," an exhibit by Italian artist Maurizio Cattelan.

"America" is a fully functional gold toilet and has been on display for about a year.

More than 100,000 museum visitors have waited in line to use the popular installation, which is made out of 100 percent 18-karat gold .

The artwork, based on the museum's standard Kohler toilets, makes "available to the public an extravagant luxury product seemingly intended for the 1 percent," according to its label.


Cattelan’s toilet offers a wink to the excesses of the art market but also evokes the American dream of opportunity for all—its utility ultimately reminding us of the inescapable physical realities of our shared humanity.


Now, I really don’t care about this working gold toilet one way or the other. But finding it within your list illustrates the problem that I see with Prager, and the consumers of his own work. So I now have two questions for you:

1. Is it possible that Prager just doesn’t understand, or wishes to misrepresent, what this exhibit was all about?

Possible? Sure but in my opinion, crapping and/or urinating on "America" seems pretty clear.

2. Can you tell me what your issues are with the display?

crapping and urinating on America.

Thanks. : )

You're welcome

Now I have some questions for you :)

I went back and looked at every post you have made on this board and I counted the number of times that you challenged/mocked/ridiculed/debated a post that was was authored by someone who is politically right leaning - The results were 678,845 times. Then I counted the number of times that you challenged/mocked/ridiculed/debated a post that was authored by someone who is politically left leaning - The results were zero (nada, never, zilch)

Now, recently on the board, you made a post suggesting that you are politically independent so my questions are as follows:

Are you sure you are an independent?
You have never read a post authored by someone leaning left that you found to be racist? Discriminatory? Worthy of your challenge/debate/mockery? Not even once?

Thanks!
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Ceeboo wrote:
canpakes wrote:1. Is it possible that Prager just doesn’t understand, or wishes to misrepresent, what this exhibit was all about?

Possible? Sure but in my opinion, crapping and/or urinating on "America" seems pretty clear.

2. Can you tell me what your issues are with the display?

crapping and urinating on America.


OK. So you are choosing to take the name of the exhibit and claim that using this toilet is “crapping and urinating on America”. There’s no possibility that the actual meaning is something different than you would like to characterize it as?

I thought that this statement carried a much more positive message for humanity and the American Dream: “... its utility ultimately reminding us of the inescapable physical realities of our shared humanity.”

Methinks that Prager is intentionally trying to get his audience worked up over this, but YMMV. I’d be interested in knowing why you can’t accept the possibility of meaning outside of a label. But maybe this points to a broader issue with Prager’s fans.


Now I have some questions for you :)

I went back and looked at every post you have made on this board and I counted the number of times that you challenged/mocked/ridiculed/debated a post that was was authored by someone who is politically right leaning - The results were 678,845 times.

Wow! That’s almost 105 times within each post! I’ve been busy! And, efficient. : D


Then I counted the number of times that you challenged/mocked/ridiculed/debated a post that was authored by someone who is politically left leaning - The results were zero (nada, never, zilch)

Now, recently on the board, you made a post suggesting that you are politically independent so my questions are as follows:

Are you sure you are an independent?

Yep. Voting card has said so since I could vote.


You have never read a post authored by someone leaning left that you found to be racist? Discriminatory? Worthy of your challenge/debate/mockery? Not even once?

Thanks!

Sure. I can think of one in particular back on that past Prager thread of yours.

But since you’re deciding to examine my 600K+ attacks on good right-wing folk, can you point to some examples where I’ve been off base? Maybe I need to make amends, right? : )
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By the way, is Prager - in singling out this Golden Toilet and mischaracterizing it’s intent - demonstrating an “intolerance of any ideas/views/perspectives that are different from his own”, even as he needs to build a straw man to do so?
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