Themis wrote:Maybe on the other thread you could provide how you think it is scientific.
I cannot, but I can provide how it explains and addresses things that science cannot. Such parallel realities, where the Big Bang came from, how energy of the soul is real energy and doesn't cease to exist at death.
Otherwise known as the woo of the gaps theory...
You see, the approach of trying to stick to actual evidence when attempting to understand life, the universe and everything, is that some time you have to be satisfied with "Don't know" for an answer instead of making crap up.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
Res Ipsa wrote:Otherwise known as the woo of the gaps theory...
You see, the approach of trying to stick to actual evidence when attempting to understand life, the universe and everything, is that some time you have to be satisfied with "Don't know" for an answer instead of making ____ up.
A clinical opinion is a valid measure of evidence. It's not the entire measure of evidence but it is considered. When it comes to woo-woo crap I am a clinical expert. I have not made up very much of this if any of it. I am merely laying out the evidence in a way that makes sense to me.
A clinical opinion is a valid measure of evidence. It's not the entire measure of evidence but it is considered. When it comes to woo-woo crap I am a clinical expert.
By all means, please cite your recognized qualifications as an expert in crap, as well as the universally recognized agency that certifies your qualifications.
For future reference, the word "expert" has meaning, as does "valid measure." If you are going to use them in a nonstandard way, you need to justify that.
A clinical opinion is a valid measure of evidence. It's not the entire measure of evidence but it is considered. When it comes to woo-woo ____ I am a clinical expert.
By all means, please cite your recognized qualifications as an expert in ____, as well as the universally recognized agency that certifies your qualifications.
For future reference, the word "expert" has meaning, as does "valid measure." If you are going to use them in a nonstandard way, you need to justify that.
I'm sorry, I thought my credentials in the arts of woo-woo BS were self-evident. For the sake of privacy I cannot reveal my credential.
Res Ipsa wrote:Otherwise known as the woo of the gaps theory...
You see, the approach of trying to stick to actual evidence when attempting to understand life, the universe and everything, is that some time you have to be satisfied with "Don't know" for an answer instead of making ____ up.
A clinical opinion is a valid measure of evidence. It's not the entire measure of evidence but it is considered. When it comes to woo-woo ____ I am a clinical expert. I have not made up very much of this if any of it. I am merely laying out the evidence in a way that makes sense to me.
Being an expert on BS does not make BS true. Nor does reading and thinking about BS qualify one to sort truth from BS. “Makes sense to me” is maybe the worst way to distinguish truth from falsity.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
SPG wrote:I cannot, but I can provide how it explains and addresses things that science cannot. Such parallel realities, where the Big Bang came from, how energy of the soul is real energy and doesn't cease to exist at death.
Science will readily admit many areas in which it does not know the answer yet. Explanations are a dime a dozen, where religions peddle them like candy. The idea of a soul existing after death is not new, but it is only an assertion. When a scientist asks for an explanation they want more then just an assertion. They want actual evidence supporting the assertion. How would we test these assertions to show they are likely true?
"Jesus gave us the gospel, but Satan invented church. It takes serious evil to formalize faith into something tedious and then pile guilt on anyone who doesn’t participate enthusiastically." - Robert Kirby
Beer makes you feel the way you ought to feel without beer. -- Henry Lawson
Dialogues with people like SPG are, after a certain point, a waste of time, and give readers of this board an entirely unjustified sense of the importance of his views.
Just get the facts out there, explain clearly what they mean, then shake the dust from off your sandals, and say explicitly that you have said all that needs to be said, and hence you are done with him.
Zadok: I did not have a faith crisis. I discovered that the Church was having a truth crisis. Maksutov: That's the problem with this supernatural stuff, it doesn't really solve anything. It's a placeholder for ignorance.
Res Ipsa wrote:Oh yeah? Show me a crocoduck. Checkmate, evilutionists!
I find few things more hilarious than the "show me a crocoduck" type of argument against evolution. Nothing better confirms the utter lack of understanding of evolutionary theory than resorting to that approach to discredit it. If things like crocoducks ever were observed to occur, especially on a regular basis, that would be so contrary to our understanding of evolution and how it supposed to work, even Darwin himself would have firmly rejected the theory of evolution as complete nonsense. That is why the Crocoduck Award is annually awarded to those who present the stupidest arguments against evolution.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
Dialogues with people like SPG are, after a certain point, a waste of time, and give readers of this board an entirely unjustified sense of the importance of his views.
Just get the facts out there, explain clearly what they mean, then shake the dust from off your sandals, and say explicitly that you have said all that needs to be said, and hence you are done with him.
Who asked you to waste your time with me?
There is a lot more to evolution than the puny facts people throw around, as if stuff like survival of fittest explain everything. There is the also the framework of the laws of nature to consider. If the dominant species always wins out, why does the earth work so hard to balance things?
Why isn't Earth a big round lump of moss? Because there are patterns in the nature of consciousness that lead us to where are. Life is more than physical. This is also spiritual.
The desire for music and art are forms of life that are part of evolution, but work in a whole different realm then biology life. There are other realms of life out there and we are in them, but they are harder to see then your coffee table. And those other realms might have been there from the beginning, where influences we cannot see might have been pulling strings all along.
By all means, please cite your recognized qualifications as an expert in crap, as well as the universally recognized agency that certifies your qualifications. 