Candace Owens Congressional Testimony (New PragerU video)

[Guest]

EAllusion explained what's wrong with Candace better than anyone here probably could. You don't see it because you're more pigheaded as you claim others are. Candace does the world a disservice. She isn't someone with special insight, she is just an opportunist who uses the attention she gets from Conservatives to spew their idiotic talking points and the only reason she is able to do this is because she's black. She has nothing to offer except ignorance. The same kind of ignorance that led her to dropping out of college to become a blogging spokesperson for people like you who hate education. Nothing she says is correct. She's easily refuted and the only reason you like her is because you believe the same stupid ____ she's spewing.

I suppose "human garage" wasn't enough. Candace does YOUR world a disservice, damn her. Those "idiotic talking points" are resonating with people, like me, and many others. Colleges are owned by the liberals, you cannot speak if you are a conservative. The reasons "conservatives" tend to be less educated, it because we are self educated, in stead of brainwashed by the education system.

I haven't heard her refuted even once, not in true context. I've seen people take her words out of context, but never heard someone actually catch her in a poor logic. And I've said it a million times, it's not truth that bends our minds, its perspective. And. . . . I LOVE her perspective.

[_honorentheos]

Just because some "discredited" the witness to Johnson's racist comment, doesn't mean it wasn't said.

That's not how critical thinking works, SPG. The witness in relation to the quote about Johnson saying he signed the CRA because doing so won the n-word vote for 200 years should be considered on their own merits regardless of one's view.

So, let's do so.

Here's the quote in the context it was presented in Inside the White House: The Hidden Lives of the Modern Presidents and the Secrets of the World’s Most Powerful Institution:

Johnson, like other presidents, would often reveal his true motivations in asides that the press never picked up. During one trip, Johnson was discussing his proposed civil rights bill with two governors. Explaining why it was so important to him, he said it was simple: “I’ll have them (n-word) voting Democratic for two hundred years.”

“That was the reason he was pushing the bill,” said MacMillan, who was present during the conversation. “Not because he wanted equality for everyone. It was strictly a political ploy for the Democratic party. He was phony from the word go.”

This is the first instance of anyone claiming Johnson said this in print. It was published in 1995, or 30 years after the facts it purports to reveal. And it was stated by an Air Force One steward named Ronald MacMillan. The entire quote above is made by MacMillan, and it should be obvious that he viewed Johnson negatively and provided his own view of Johnson's motive.

So what to do with that? Does it matter that other people were the intended audience for said quote but never came forward with it themselves? Where does it come out that this quote from 1995 is the thread that, once pulled, undoes the cloth hiding the Democrat intent to use Civil Rights as a ploy to win minority voters over rather than as an actual cause that at least some Democrats fought for and made good on the promises of, if there was and is still much to be done? Rather than just claim it's been subject to smear campaign in an attempt to discredit it, show how it's actually supported by any other single independent fact.

In other words, other than this particular bit of gossip (which is what it is) happens to check a box you already believed, what recommends it to you as worthy of framing a worldview around? I mean, what's going on TODAY that supports your worldview? Where's the bigger picture laid out in facts and details that aren't a fetish for counter-fact and conspiracy implied to be the REAL truth?

[_Kevin Graham]

EAllusion explained what's wrong with Candace better than anyone here probably could. You don't see it because you're more pigheaded as you claim others are. Candace does the world a disservice. She isn't someone with special insight, she is just an opportunist who uses the attention she gets from Conservatives to spew their idiotic talking points and the only reason she is able to do this is because she's black. She has nothing to offer except ignorance. The same kind of ignorance that led her to dropping out of college to become a blogging spokesperson for people like you who hate education. Nothing she says is correct. She's easily refuted and the only reason you like her is because you believe the same stupid ____ she's spewing.

I suppose "human garage" wasn't enough. Candace does YOUR world a disservice, damn her. Those "idiotic talking points" are resonating with people, like me, and many others. Colleges are owned by the liberals, you cannot speak if you are a conservative. The reasons "conservatives" tend to be less educated, it because we are self educated, in stead of brainwashed by the education system.

I haven't heard her refuted even once, not in true context. I've seen people take her words out of context, but never heard someone actually catch her in a poor logic. And I've said it a million times, it's not truth that bends our minds, its perspective. And. . . . I LOVE her perspective.

Of course you love her perspective. You're both "self-educated" morons.

"The reasons "conservatives" tend to be less educated, it because we are self educated, in stead of brainwashed by the education system."



Is that you faqs?

[_honorentheos]

I haven't heard her refuted even once, not in true context. I've seen people take her words out of context, but never heard someone actually catch her in a poor logic. And I've said it a million times, it's not truth that bends our minds, its perspective. And. . . . I LOVE her perspective.

I listened to it. Her argument is:

A) Democrats were behind White Nationalism and Jim Crow, which her grandfather experienced first hand up through the 1960s.
B) Modern African Americans are not benefiting compared to others when you look at education, literacy rates, instances of single-mother households, etc.
C) B is not the result of White Nationalism, but IS the result of Democrat policies.
D) Democrats are blaming White Nationalism for political reasons. They offer hand-outs and false promises, and couple it with fear of White Nationalists.
E) Pointing out that there are inequalities is race warfare, and an attempt to keep minorities looking for handouts.

Pointing out inequality in B is not addressed. At one point, she makes the odd statement that anyone claiming White Nationalism is going up compared to when her grandfather was living under Jim Crow is misrepresenting the facts. Uh...so what about people who say it's going up since 2017? Changes to the way hate crimes are recorded accounts for changes since the 1990s? What's the argument she's making again?

Anyway, where is her discussion about the incarceration rate among African Americans? It affects education rates, instances of single-mother households, literacy rates, and the ability to get a job once one has a record. If she wanted to make a case against Democrats, there's plenty to point to from the 80s and 90s where getting tough on crime was a bipartisan ploy that relied on fear and handouts to get middle class America to vote for someone that DID result in all of the problems she pointed out in B. It just happened to not only be a political tool used by Democrats alone.

Anyway, SPG, I'm sure your unconventional but incisive approach that cuts through the smoke and mirrors of conventional thinking sees that her argument was...uh, smoke and mirrors? Huh. Odd, given you said you LOVED her perspective.

[_SPG]

In other words, other than this particular bit of gossip (which is what it is) happens to check a box you already believed, what recommends it to you as worthy of framing a worldview around? I mean, what's going on TODAY that supports your worldview? Where's the bigger picture laid out in facts and details that aren't a fetish for counter-fact and conspiracy implied to be the REAL truth?

REAL Truth? Get real! Like the 33,000 emails erased with BleachBit were about wedding planning and dinner plans?

I can easily support my world with my "facts" or "beliefs." Just like you can easily dismiss my ideas, I can dismiss yours. I admit, you have a larger information based, but it is obviously just as a corrupt, or more corrupt as my "conspiracy" sources.

[_SPG]

Of course you love her perspective. You're both "self-educated" morons.

"The reasons "conservatives" tend to be less educated, it because we are self educated, in stead of brainwashed by the education system."



Is that you faqs?

Dude, are you still talking? I don't try to reason with Enemies of God.

[_Jersey Girl]

Dude, are you still talking?

Oh. We like to think of those as replies.

[_SPG]

I haven't heard her refuted even once, not in true context. I've seen people take her words out of context, but never heard someone actually catch her in a poor logic. And I've said it a million times, it's not truth that bends our minds, its perspective. And. . . . I LOVE her perspective.

I listened to it. Her argument is:

A) Democrats were behind White Nationalism and Jim Crow, which her grandfather experienced first hand up through the 1960s.
B) Modern African Americans are not benefiting compared to others when you look at education, literacy rates, instances of single-mother households, etc.
C) B is not the result of White Nationalism, but IS the result of Democrat policies.
D) Democrats are blaming White Nationalism for political reasons. They offer hand-outs and false promises, and couple it with fear of White Nationalists.
E) Pointing out that there are inequalities is race warfare, and an attempt to keep minorities looking for handouts.

Pointing out inequality in B is not addressed. At one point, she makes the odd statement that anyone claiming White Nationalism is going up compared to when her grandfather was living under Jim Crow is misrepresenting the facts. Uh...so what about people who say it's going up since 2017? Changes to the way hate crimes are recorded accounts for changes since the 1990s? What's the argument she's making again?

Anyway, where is her discussion about the incarceration rate among African Americans? It affects education rates, instances of single-mother households, literacy rates, and the ability to get a job once one has a record. If she wanted to make a case against Democrats, there's plenty to point to from the 80s and 90s where getting tough on crime was a bipartisan ploy that relied on fear and handouts to get middle class America to vote for someone that DID result in all of the problems she pointed out in B. It just happened to not only be a political tool used by Democrats alone.

Anyway, SPG, I'm sure your unconventional but incisive approach that cuts through the smoke and mirrors of conventional thinking sees that her argument was...uh, smoke and mirrors? Huh. Odd, given you said you LOVED her perspective.

You ever hear that phrase, the more outrageous the truth, more likely people will believe its a lie?

I can see that where you and I get crossed in on a subset of Item D. Democrats think that giving hand outs to people, that they are helping. Candace, myself, and others like us think this is a major part of the problem. "Healing comes from within." This is a key to life. By doing for people something that they could do themselves, we weaken them, tear down their self-esteem.

So in your opinion, do you see people who are going more self-confident, or more likely to blame? Do you see people eager to be citizens of a powerful nation, or people wanting to recompense for something done to their ancestors?

I think you believe in the Disney Princess motto, "Be Brave, and Be Kind." I like that too, but I so believe that for people to be whole, they must have within themselves the power to take care of themselves. This also includes making teams and societies to achieve things. But Democrats don't want productive teams, they want riots shouting out blame.

Candace sees this, just like I can. Just like millions of hard working people that want fellow citizens, not people to blame us for their short comings. She wants people to stand up, take responsibility for themselves.

And in the process, yes, she points out how Democrats intentionally created these illusions. And yup, tons of evidences to support her claims.

But sure, if you want to say, "she is human garage" then I suppose that invalidates all of her evidence.

[_SPG]

Dude, are you still talking?

Oh. We like to think of those as replies.

Call them what you will. Anyone that calls my Spokeswoman "human garbage" is just noise. What kind of twisted soul thinks like that?

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Call them what you will. Anyone that calls my Spokeswoman "human garbage" is just noise. What kind of twisted soul thinks like that?

A mentally ill racist and sexist?

- Doc