Trump has corrupted the Government

[_Black Moclips]

dupe

[_Some Schmo]

Read my post again. I didn't minimize anything. I just think its laughable to think Trump is the source of government corruption. Go watch the 10 part series on the Vietnam war, and the politics of what happened behind the scenes. Knowingly throwing away countless lives, knowing we could't win, just to keep poll number up for the election? As far as I know, Trump doesn't have the blood of hundreds of thousands of dead Americans on his hands. Nothing he has done comes close to what has happened in the past. Hate and despise him all you want, but the problem is the government itself and what its become - ruled by a tiny elite of rich power players and their billion dollar friends. That is on both sides. Trump didn't start that. He is just participating in it.

So, honestly Moclips, I'm sympathetic to everything you're saying here (although I haven't seen anyone claim Trump is the source of gov't corruption. That's all you, buddy.)

But it kind of reminds me of the attitude, "Well, I'm eating pizza. I might as well drink coke and smoke a cigarette afterward! And “F” it, let's shoot heroine!" Do we really have to go all in? Is that the new standard?

[_Black Moclips]

Read my post again. I didn't minimize anything. I just think its laughable to think Trump is the source of government corruption. Go watch the 10 part series on the Vietnam war, and the politics of what happened behind the scenes. Knowingly throwing away countless lives, knowing we could't win, just to keep poll number up for the election? As far as I know, Trump doesn't have the blood of hundreds of thousands of dead Americans on his hands. Nothing he has done comes close to what has happened in the past. Hate and despise him all you want, but the problem is the government itself and what its become - ruled by a tiny elite of rich power players and their billion dollar friends. That is on both sides. Trump didn't start that. He is just participating in it.

So, honestly Moclips, I'm sympathetic to everything you're saying here (although I haven't seen anyone claim Trump is the source of gov't corruption. That's all you, buddy.)

But it kind of reminds me of the attitude, "Well, I'm eating pizza. I might as well drink coke and smoke a cigarette afterward! And ____ it, let's shoot heroine!" Do we really have to go all in? Is that the new standard?

Some common ground, who would have thought But the title of the thread is literally "Trump has corrupted the Government". Its Mok claiming it, i was just disagreeing.

[_Some Schmo]

Some common ground, who would have thought But the title of the thread is literally "Trump has corrupted the Government". Its Mok claiming it, i was just disagreeing.

I thought about that, and I didn't really interpret moksha's post as claiming Trump was the source, only that he had vastly exacerbated an already bad situation (although reading it without any of the context of current events, I suppose you could reasonably interpret it the way you have).

Of course, moksha can correct me if I'm wrong about that.

[_moksha]

Of course, moksha can correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Trump has appointed more ethically challenged cabinet members than any other President. Trump has set the all-time record for most lies told while in office and will continue to increase that amount. Trump has also set a new high in abuses of emoluments. Trump also hosts a slew of superlatives: most deceptive, most abusive to staff, largest ego, and biggest blunderer when talking to the press and other foreign leaders.

[_Chap]

But it kind of reminds me of the attitude, "Well, I'm eating pizza. I might as well drink coke and smoke a cigarette afterward! And ____ it, let's shoot heroine!" Do we really have to go all in? Is that the new standard?

Please don't shoot the heroine. The hero will be really upset, and may come and shoot you. Or he may just seek solace in drugs and shoot some heroin.

[_Some Schmo]

But it kind of reminds me of the attitude, "Well, I'm eating pizza. I might as well drink coke and smoke a cigarette afterward! And ____ it, let's shoot heroine!" Do we really have to go all in? Is that the new standard?

Please don't shoot the heroine. The hero will be really upset, and may come and shoot you. Or he may just seek solace in drugs and shoot some heroin.

Smart ass.

ETA: That's the kind of thing that generally makes me resist posting after a few beers, but I was on a roll last night.

[_Some Schmo]

Of course, moksha can correct me if I'm wrong about that.

Trump has appointed more ethically challenged cabinet members than any other President. Trump has set the all-time record for most lies told while in office and will continue to increase that amount. Trump has also set a new high in abuses of emoluments. Trump also hosts a slew of superlatives: most deceptive, most abusive to staff, largest ego, and biggest blunderer when talking to the press and other foreign leaders.

Yeah.

See Moclips? Do you disagree with this assessment?

[_subgenius]

It feels like something is building. The pressure on Pelosi to impeach these days is at an all time high. I think public perception of the way she's handling things is turning rapidly.

The guy just admitted, sitting behind the President desk, on camera, that he's up for federal crimes; that the head of the FBI is wrong. What the “F” else does she need?

your posts are ignorant, please stop your bigotry because i have the courage to not have you on ignore.

[_subgenius]

Many people have noticed that Trump has corrupted the Federal govt with a lawless band of toadies and that his crime wave continues unabated. Those who fail to realize the amoral nature of Trump's corrupting influence are in a state of denial for a variety of reasons.

So what do we do? Republican politicians as a group will be of no help in finding a remedy.

"noticed"?...could you be less ambiguous and provide a brief list of these "corruptions" so we can all assess the novelty of your proclamation?