Impeachment hearings

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Lutsenko giveth and Lutsenko taketh away.

“From the point of view of Ukrainian law, (Hunter Biden) didn’t violate anything,” September, 2019.
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Smokey wrote:
Gunnar wrote:No! Biden was fighting corruption by encouraging the removal of a corrupt prosecutor who was refusing to do his job of investigating the corruption of his son's boss at Burisma.

Was the prosecutor corrupt because he was investigating Hunter Biden? Or is that just a coincidence?

If you were to show that Shokin was investigating Burisma and then he was pulled to stop that investigation, you might have a point. But I get it. There are facts easily tracked down and they don't help your case. Like a good Mormon you are allergic to facts so...

"Oh, but Hunter Biden was getting paid..."

Nice story, bro.
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Here's some real red pill for you, Smokey. Those offshore tax havens and asset theft talked about in the article I linked? Used to buy expensive Western real estate assets where they can be kept hidden and safe from other thieves. Now where might we find a western real estate mogul in these events to fit that piece of the puzzle? Hmmm. So. Hard. To. Think. Of. One. So. Hard...
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Trumpworld is getting smaller and smaller. Now the infection of 'Never Trumpers' has spread to the foreign policy advisors of the Vice President. Pence aide Jennifer Williams, who took notes on the June 25th phone call said that it "struck me as unusual and inappropriate".

But of course, she is a "Never Trumper", according to the President. With the President, there is truth and there is loyalty, and you have to decide which side you are on.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Image

But no one has testified to date to as much, sans hearsay and innuendo of course, and how can anyone know what is about to be testified?......but please, keep trying to sway opinion via meme after snarky meme.
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subgenius wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Image

But no one has testified to date to as much, sans hearsay and innuendo of course, and how can anyone know what is about to be testified?......but please, keep trying to sway opinion via meme after snarky meme.

Hearsay and innuendo huh? That's all we've heard, really?

You've already shown several times that you simply repeat whatever the latest Right Wing talking point is, but you seem unwilling to accept the possibility that maybe you've been duped. I mean you're the same person who recently said Trump only wanted Doral to host the G7 summit because his secret servicemen recommended it as the best place. That came straight out of the mouth of FOX News guests just before you posted it, and that has turned out to be laughably false.

And now here you are making silly claims that have been debunked for weeks now. "That's just hearsay" was the preferred talking point when the Whistle-Blower came forth back in September, but has since been rendered a moot point because everything he said has been corroborated by many witnesses, including first hand accounts. Its like you have no interest in being up to speed with the hearings. There are multiple first hand accounts, including a new one just mentioned yesterday.

The central impeachable offense is Trump’s attempt to use defense funding as leverage to compel Ukraine to publicly announce an investigation into Biden and his son, which the President has explicitly and publicly admitted to. That’s indisputable. These witnesses are showing the different ways Trump went outside of proper channels to orchestrate this extortion/bribery. No person ever stated that the entirety of the impeachment case was based on the testimonies of these three witnesses, so this claim that they don’t independently prove impeachable offenses is just laughable rhetoric. If their testimonies are true, the impeachable offense of trying to extort Ukraine for help with the election is only more strongly established, and you can demonstrate no shortcoming with anything any of them have said. Again, the fact that Trump tried to extort Ukraine has been publicly and explicitly acknowledged by Trump already.
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Subgenius’ tactic is to simply say anything since Fox News’ tactic is to just say anything and its viewers are like, “YUP!” It doesn’t matter that you posted a thoughtful reply with informative links because he doesn’t read. That’s why my BIG PICTURE WITH FEW WORDS caught his attention. That’s why he and his ilk generally communicate in BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS because they don’t really think as much as they emote. That’s why 4Chan/pol/ is so popular with the Right because it’s an image board that primarily communicates through BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS.

So. They like tv because there are BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS. They like Facebook because they can share BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS. And they love memes because, well, you get the point.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Subgenius’ tactic is to simply say anything since Fox News’ tactic is to just say anything and its viewers are like, “YUP!” It doesn’t matter that you posted a thoughtful reply with informative links because he doesn’t read. That’s why my BIG PICTURE WITH FEW WORDS caught his attention. That’s why he and his ilk generally communicate in BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS because they don’t really think as much as they emote. That’s why 4Chan/pol/ is so popular with the Right because it’s an image board that primarily communicates through BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS.

So. They like tv because there are BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS. They like Facebook because they can share BIG PICTURES WITH FEW WORDS. And they love memes because, well, you get the point.

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Talk Radio even better. Rush, Glenn, Mark blah blah blah. :razz:
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Mak,

I think they enjoy talk radio because it’s just pure, unadulterated confirmation bias. The othering of Liberals is nice because they felt othered by the (((mainstream media))), which, you know, I get. It’s nice when your team rah rahs your belief system.

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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