Icarus wrote:Romney just said there will "likely" be enough GOP votes to call witnesses after Bolton's remarks.
Oh snap.
This is yet another instance where some new damning revelation about Trump has broke and the right wing media strategy isn’t settled yet. Every time this happens you get a brief window of chaos where everything gets thrown at the wall, some Republican leaders furrow their brows, and the Trumpian invincibility seems staggered. Up to this point they’ve always settled back into a consistent, if dishonest, set of talking points and Republican leaders have fallen back into circling the wagons. I would not assume this pattern is going to change until we see it change.
Yep. We’re in the ‘faux Republican concern’ stage that is part and parcel with the “Oh, actually, we don’t give a f&ck” stage that immediately follows.
The President's attacks against political opponents, the free press and inciting violence.
The rhetoric and actions taken by the President - from continuing to berate the fourth estate by referring to the media as "the enemy of the people"[1] to calling his political opponents traitors[2] while he attacks the judicial branch of government[3] are just a few examples of his egregious attacks on democratic institutions and norms. President Trump has referred to the minority party as un-American simply for not applauding his speech.[4]
Here is a video compilation of President Trump openly inciting violence at public events.[5] For example following Saudi Arabia's assassination of Saudi journalist and U.S. resident Jamal Khashoggi in Turkey,[6] President Trump encouraged assaulting reporters and journalists at a rally in Montana.[7]
President Trump's praise for authoritarians, "joking" about consolidating his own power, and threatening an American government whistleblower for notifying the appropriate authorities of the President asking a foreign country to interfere in the 2020 election.
President Trump has joked about wanting to consolidate his power like his dictator colleague in China, President Xi.[8] President Trump has repeatedly joked about serving for more than the legal limit of 2 terms or 10 years as president.[9] President Trump has repeatedly praised dictators including Putin, Duterte, Erdogan, and el-Sisi.[10] There's also no way in hell any Conservatives who post here will read this in its entirety. In 2018 President Trump praised brutal dictator[11] Kim Jong Un calling him "strong, funny, and smart."[12] At last years G7 summit President Trump loudly asked "where's my favourite dictator?" as he awaited for the Egyptian dictator.[13]
Furthermore, President Trump endangered a whistleblower by claiming he committed treason for notifying the authorities of the President asking a foreign nation to interfere with the 2020 election.[14] Following a phone call with newly elected Ukrainian President Zelensky a whistleblower from DNI filed a complaint that stated President Trump was "using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the US 2020 election," characterizing the conduct as a "serious or flagrant problem, abuse, or violation of law".[15] A Trump appointed Inspector General detailed his concerns in letters where he stated that the whistleblower complaint being kept from Congress was both urgent and “relates to one of the most important and significant of the (Director of National Intelligence)’s responsibilities to the American people.”[16] President Trump attempted to block the whistle blower and called it fake news.[17]
References are in the link provided.
- Doc
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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
EAllusion wrote:I still think the best way to maximize the chance of getting Trumpbout of office is to string days like this together one after the other. That’s why a broad impeachment focus of the full scale of malfeasance would have been better.
Indeed, I think this was the Democrats biggest mistake. They predicted that a blanket impeachment for the dozen impeachable offenses would come off as too desperate or whatever but that's precisely what's needed because now they're just defending this by saying if the Democrats really thought he was breaking laws then they'd specific which laws he's broken.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
Brackite wrote:Hannity believes that there shouldn't be any witnesses in this Senate Impeachment trial. But every past Impeachment trial had witnesses.
Hannity is a despicable excuse for an American. He is a traitor whose loyalties lie with whomever is the Republican in power.
"One of the hardest things for me to accept is the fact that Kevin Graham has blonde hair, blue eyes and an English last name. This ugly truth blows any arguments one might have for actual white supremacism out of the water. He's truly a disgrace." - Ajax
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
EAllusion wrote:It seems that Ken Starr is just flat out arguing that cheating elections is a legitimate excerise of power for the President. I don’t know. Seems bad.
Assuming there is a Democratic President again, I can’t wait to see what manufactured nonsense Republicans impeach that person over.
I don't see how they could possibly impeach a democrat president. Once they acquit Trump, they will legitimize his behavior. The next democrat president can use foreign governments and intelligence agencies to dig up dirt on the GOP. Democrat party campaigns can work with foreign governments to hack GOP servers and setup trollbot farms to spread fake news conspiracy theories about GOP candidates. They can openly lie when asked direct questions, ignore subpeonas, and refuse to release financial documents that would disclose any financial conflicts of interest. Trump is setting new precedents for presidential behavior and the GOP seems to think the Democrat party won't use these newly sanctioned tactics when they're back in the white house.
"We have taken up arms in defense of our liberty, our property, our wives, and our children; we are determined to preserve them, or die." - Captain Moroni - 'Address to the Inhabitants of Canada' 1775
DarkHelmet wrote: I don't see how they could possibly impeach a democrat president. Once they acquit Trump, they will legitimize his behavior. The next democrat president can use foreign governments and intelligence agencies to dig up dirt on the GOP.
The governing principle of Republican politics is that they are bound by no law or principle, but their opponents are held to an exacting standard, and if they meet that, then violations will be invented to hold them to account regardless.
"Republicans cannot possibly do X, because they'll look like hypocrites!" seems awfully naïve when they offer nothing but cynical hypocrisy now.
DarkHelmet wrote: I don't see how they could possibly impeach a democrat president. Once they acquit Trump, they will legitimize his behavior. The next democrat president can use foreign governments and intelligence agencies to dig up dirt on the GOP.
Which would really be bad for them, because it is becoming increasingly obvious that there is an enormous amount of dirt to dig up on them.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison