Impeachment hearings

[_canpakes]

Why aren't the Bidens Trump's worthy of an investigation in the Ukraine, China, and elsewhere?

; ) “worthy”.

Why didn’t Trump ask the DoJ to investigate the Bidens based on that criteria, indeed?

[_Markk]

Who was in charge of investigating the Ukraine under Obama?

[_canpakes]

Who was in charge of investigating the Ukraine under Obama?

Why do I like scrambled eggs?

[_schreech]

Why do I like scrambled eggs?

Lol. Now you are getting it :). Markkk is the epitome of the clueless boomer who has never really done anything or been anywhere but somehow has all the answers because right wing media and he is gullible. The fact that he can't answer simple questions or even manage a lucid/linear series of thoughts is, in his mind, everyone else's fault and has nothing to with the fact that he is both wrong and incapable of communicating coherently. Its like he is somehow a less informed more subtle LDSfaps...Arrogance coupled with ignorance seems to be a trumplican staple.

[_Res Ipsa]

Who was in charge of investigating the Ukraine under Obama?

Why do I like scrambled eggs?

What Ukraine "investigation?"

[_Res Ipsa]

They never did, but if they did , it might be possibly that the Bidens were corrupt, and stole or diverted tax payer dollars for personal reasons, like kick backs...think.

I see. You believe that prompting a foreign nation to publicly announce an investigation that hasn’t occurred, using Trump-scripted language, is what proves “the Bidens” to be corrupt.

You have a strange concept of how this process works. But it speaks to how easily the Trump Base can be manipulated based on hearsay and accusation alone.

You’ve been an interesting case study, here.

We have a current president who diverts tax payer dollars for personal reasons every week or so, but that's not a problem. The speculation that "it might possibly be that the Bidens were corrupt" is a scandal we must get to the bottom of.

[_schreech]

We have a current president who diverts tax payer dollars for personal reasons every week or so, but that's not a problem. The speculation that "it might possibly be that the Bidens were corrupt" is a scandal we must get to the bottom of.

Its hilarious (and expected) that he "thinks" that, somehow, the "dirty" bidens conspiracy theory exonerates Trump's impeachable and criminal activities (this is a thread about Trump's impeachment hearings after all) because that is what he has been told to believe by the cheeto shiat-stain's apologists. The fact that he even entertains the right wing distraction narrative that the bidens are "dirty" while ignoring the ever growing list of dirty activities committed by the Trump administration is really all you need to know about his shallow "thought" process - the gullible are easily distracted.

Its even more hilarious to watch him parrot right wing media about how the bidens are "dirty" without actually pointing to any crimes they committed all while displaying how completely clueless he is about how large corporations function. Trump's blind faith sycophants tend to follow a pretty predictable pattern. Next thing you know, he is going to start talking about how hillary should be locked up...or maybe he will again try to distract us with his big brain and try to explain how Trump is a good businessman because he turned hundreds of millions it (maybe) billions while displaying no understanding of the value of money over time.

[_EAllusion]

I think I saw Julian Sanchez make a point today that I believe is accurate. One of the propangda aims and/or benefits of portraying enemies as corrupt is to make Trump’s bottomless corruption seem unremarkable for a politician and his relative openness about it admirable in a twisted sense. Trump benefits even when assumed guilty.

I would add that Trump himself seems to be just a walking projection machine who thinks counter-accusing what he’s guilty of is clever. But I think more savvy people see the propaganda value, and this exact same pattern has played out in the rise of illiberalism in other democracies. Ginning up charges of corruption against political opposition to justify actual corruption to go after them is found in the playbook of every example I can think of from Russia to Turkey to Poland to Hungary to the Philippines.

It’s hard to tell what is intentional strategy and what is corrupt morons happening to incidentally benefit from having personalities that are rewarded in a broken system.

[_honorentheos]

Trump did ask then-AG Jeff Sessions why the DOJ wasn't investigating the conspiracy theory regarding Ukrainian attempts to help Clinton and hurt him in 2016. Of course, he did it via Twitter and Sessions seems to have known the whole Black Ledger incident wasn't a cooked up scheme to smear Manefort and Trump...so they didn't. So it was on to his personal lawyer Giuliani followed by partisans like Nunes who took it on themselves to agitate for dirt on the Bidens and shift focus onto the Ukraine instead of Russia for trying to interfere with the US election.

Anyway, here's a better version of the timeline, prepared by actual journalists. It's long but informative.

https://www.justsecurity.org/66271/time ... rainegate/

[_canpakes]

So it was on to his personal lawyer Giuliani ...

You’d think that this alone would clue Markk in on a thing or two, if he were to give it a thought.