"Facsimile 3 Figure 6 ????? Slave On The Path Of Ascension" -- Apologists strike back defending Book of Abraham Facsimile!

[_Shulem]

The Mormon apologist quotes more material from the vast stores of Egyptology in an attempt to scramble more Joseph Smith eggs:


"Read the writing above me,
I'm a damned slave"

“Caderini, A., Manomissione, 108-113, even-city states of Greece in which slaves were freed by religious dedication to Serapis and Isis… combining the worship of Serapis, Isis, and Anubis.”

Symbol For Christian Redemption From Slavery – But I think the answer is a little more complicated–a darker. Anubis was anciently associated with slavery, and Abraham was considered the one who fought against the practice.

“But Anubis began his journeyings to diffuse benevolence and humanity according to the precedent of Abraham, from Egypt into Ethiopia… But in this ancient institution revived by Anubis, the slave was considered the property of the master and labored at his will and under his superintendence, and was entitled to no more than a plentiful subsistence with the privilege of propagation, the lowest state to which the laborer could be reduced, consequently the chosen-seed was preserved, by this institution.”

I think this idea derives from ancient Egyptian practice, but more especially later Greek and Roman practices of slavery that involved Anubis. Anubis came to be equated among early Christians with forced slavery:

“Note that this voluntary slavery in service of a god is paralleled by voluntary acceptance of slavery in the secular world… Clemens 55:2 tells us that many Christians sold themselves into slavery in order to ransom fellow Christians from prison with the proceeds… In connection with possible Egyptian origins of the phenomenon I would like to mention some curious demotic self-dedications to Anubis published by H.J.Thissen… ‘I am thy servant from this day onwards for ever and I give you 2 1/2 kit every month for my rent of service before Anubis the great god. No daemon, spirit, evil force, no man who is in the underworld, no man on earth will have power over me except you from this day onwards for ever.’… The latter part of this formula returns literally in Greek texts concerning sacral manumissio or aphierosis, which makes a slave free by ‘consecrating’ him to a god or goddess… Deissmann 1923, 270-81, has powerfully argued that the New Testament, especially the Pauline doctrine of Jesus’ death as a ransom for a man’s sins is, at the least terminologically, derived from the pagan sacred manumission.”

:rolleyes:

Anubis is NOT a slave. Anubis never was a slave.

Anubis in FACSIMILE NO. 3 is NOT a slave!

Joseph Smith is wrong and the modern apologist that defends him is a liar.

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Note that this describes how things were around the time of the Hor scroll.

Time of the Hor scroll?

No, dummy, Smith was talking about the time of Abraham. Read WHAT Joseph Smith and his apostles actually said:

Here Comes The Book of Abraham Part I, II
(By Paul Osborne)

The Book of Abraham account and the Explanations of the Facsimiles have nothing to do with the time of Hor scroll, late Egypt.

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Most slavery in ancient times, despite what you see on the cable television, involved people assuming contracts of servitude because of some debt. People often labored due to a family member who owed something or got in legal trouble. De Germania records that early European barbarians very frequently sold themselves into slavery in order to pay for alcohol or some other vice. Slavery was debt (it sounds like the typical credit system today, really.) But in this case Christians were signing contracts of debt that were permanent. And not just permanent, they were literally selling their souls to a devil. They were agreeing that after they die, a Pagan god would assume ownership, and that Pagan god just happens to have been Anubis.

But there was a manumission to this deal with the devil. Ownership of the soul could be wrapped up into a portfolio and given over to another deity. And it just so happens that the very wording of these contracts is the same as what we read in the New Testament about Jesus redeeming our souls from hell.

And so, we start to look at Facsimile 3 differently, don’t we? Is this dark character Figure 6 assisting the deceased Shulem on his/her way to the exalted realms, or is he dragging him down? Shulem is being pulled from the left by Figure 4 the Prince in the middle of everything (Prince of Peace? Same as Figure 2 in Facsimile 2?), and he is also pulled from the other side by Anubis. It is a literal tug of war for this soul! This describes what judgement is as we approach the Bosom of Abraham and get lifted to heaven or kicked to hell, to eventually be a telestial slave. The Christian who in his lifetime sacrificed himself for the sake of fellow saints will be redeemed. The wicked who signs himself up for slavery to vices for less noble reasons will not.

Go tell your driveling perverted crap to Joseph Smith. Maybe, just maybe, he'll believe ya?

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Animal Head



Lately, scholars have said Figure 6 we see with a human originally was likely carved with a canine head (I’m not going to link to a source on that as all I can find are Anti-Mormon sources.) See for yourself how the chippings around the mouth appear to be in the shape of a snout. The dog ear at the top of the head is still there as some kind of spike thing. Did Reuben Hedlock originally carve it with an animal head? If so, why was it changed? My best guess is that Joseph Smith looked at the finished printing plate and thought it might be confusing to people; he did not want in scripture a fanciful image of a human-dog head man. Perhaps he thought that would confuse and make it harder for the meaning of the Figure to be evident. Indeed, as far as everything discussed in this article is concerned there is no importance of whether the Figure has a canine or human head.

Dear Conflict of Justice,

Why do you suppose that the only links (sources) you can find about the missing snout are on "Anti-Mormon" sites? Why are you afraid to link to those sites? Is it because you know that your readers are going to get additional information that will demonstrate that Joseph Smith used fraud in publishing his Explanations? You, sir (assuming you're a man), are a damned coward.

Let's be clear that the "dog ear" is a JACKAL ear and it's not a mere "spike thing". It's someone's ear! You too have ears? They aren't just "some kind of thing", they are EARS, you dumb ass! You show disrespect to the god Anubis when you talk that way. You're probably a racist. I'll bet you're a Trump supporter and a white supremacist!

"Did Reuben Hedlock originally carve it with an animal head?"
[X] Yes [ ] No

Obviously you admit that the head was originally animal in nature and we are favored to hear your "best guess"!



Never mind what others (Anti-Mormons) might have to say about the subject, people who KNOW far more about this subject matter than you do! You want to hide that from your readers just like Joseph Smith wanted to hide the jackal head from his readers. You, sir, like Joseph, are a liar and a deceiver.



You don't understand or appreciate the true nature of Egyptology. You, like Joseph Smith commit blasphemy against another religion's sacred beliefs and make a mockery of it. You are an ignorant little sniveling liar. And, you're chicken too. Your website is rubbish.



Shulem

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My best guess is that Joseph Smith looked at the finished printing plate and thought it might be confusing to people; he did not want in scripture a fanciful image of a human-dog head man. Perhaps he thought that would confuse and make it harder for the meaning of the Figure to be evident. Indeed, as far as everything discussed in this article is concerned there is no importance of whether the Figure has a canine or human head.

So, that's your "best guess"? You really are ignorant. Joseph didn't want a "human-dog head man" in his scriptures?



You stupid, ignorant apologist!



Take a look at Facsimile No. 2 and see how it directly contradicts your apologetic nonsense!

Tell me, CONFLICT OF JUSTICE, about Fig. 1 of Jah-oh-eh and the residence of God -- WHAT kind of head does he have?

Tell me, CONFLICT OF JUSTICE, about Fig. 2 which is near to the celestial or the place where God resides -- holding the key of power -- WHAT kind of head does he have?

Tell me, CONFLICT OF JUSTICE, about who is made to represent God in Fig. 3 and WHAT kind of head he has?

Tell me, CONFLICT OF JUSTICE, about Fig. 7 and the Holy Ghost portrayed therein as a serpent? The Facsimile representation that came off the printing press did not do justice to what was on the actual papyrus. Other hypocephalus papyrus (funerary cult ritual) show the same scene and portray exactly what was on so-called Abraham's papyrus:



O get it up baby . . . .



You, CONFLICT OF JUSTICE, are a liar.

[Guest]

I think one of the better cudgels you've developed is how Mormons have disrespected the ancient Egyptian religion by taking Anubis and making him a slave. Not only do they prove themselves insanely disrespectful with their deicide, but you get a two-fer with the racism. It's absolutely brilliant what you've done with this.
- Doc

May I please have my nose back?

The Mormons chopped it off and have called me a slave just because I'm black.




The man in the papyrus is a slave because he is black.

He is black because he is a slave.




Yes, I am black but am not a slave. I am a god! You hacked off my nose after having first carved me in my correct image. You have mutilated and shamed me with your brutal sacrilege.

Give me my nose back! BLACK LIVES MATTER!




I think nothing of putting my knee on a black man's neck. He is the curse of Cain and I shall crush his head.

I will take my sharp scalpel and hack out the Negro's nose!




I can't breathe! Please! Please!

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BLACK LIVES MATTER!

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SALT LAKE CITY — The leader of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, President Russel M. NelSatan made a statement on a social media platform Monday relaying his message about racism and violence related to the mutilation of the Egyptian god Anubis and how it makes a solemn mockery of another religion and demonstrates utter disregard and lack of respect to the dead:

We join with many throughout this nation and around the world who are deeply saddened at evidence of racism and a blatant disregard towards sacred iconography of the ancient Egyptian religion.

[Guest]

Joseph Smith hacked off the nose off the Egyptian god Anubis in order to make the papyrus fit the story in which Smith was telling. Why are people today complaining about the mutilation? For heaven's sake, at least he didn't hack off the god's ear! When will critics stop complaining? Hacking off a nose is certainly not as bad as kneeling on a black man's neck just because he's black.

It's not that we Mormons are racist, we just know how to take care of our business. We gave the blacks the priesthood in 1978 and they are still complaining to this day. Are they not an ungrateful race?



White and Delightsome BYU School Teacher

[Guest]

QUESTIONS FOR DAN F PETERSON:

1. How do you feel about a white policeman placing his knee into the neck of a handcuffed black man who is begging for his life?

2. How do you feel about an ignorant 19 century white man calling a black man a slave and chopping his nose off without regard to authenticity or bodily image?