Peterson promises to ignore Mormon Discussions Board

[_Lemmie]

Sounds like a hate crime defense! Lol. Luckily, mopologist poison pens are quite a bit less lethal than the typical weapons used.

Well, yes. But exactly.

Apart from what might have been the odd attempt to mess with somebody's pension, which isn't a completely clear case to me, the nastiness of the Mormon apologists is limited to snide comments on a blog that few people are going to see who haven't already signed the waiver. We have to keep this in perspective. They may fall short of what one would expect from the only true priests of the only true God, but once you've dropped that expectation they're not even on the radar of really bad things in the world. I hope I don't make excuses for people who do make that list, but below a certain point, hey, few people are nearly as good as we should be and I want to be as understanding as possible of anyone who isn't really doing much harm.

Just to make sure I am understanding what I bolded, are you saying you think that mopologists have never had a significant negative influence on anyone’s real life with their writings? Or just this week?

[_Physics Guy]

I don't believe they've physically attacked anyone. Writings can certainly have a negative influence if people believe the writings and change their own lives in bad ways, but from that point of view I think a suavely polite defense of Mormonism might have a more negative influence than all the snark in the world, to be honest.

And all kinds of things have negative influences. I try not to have them but I'm sure I do, too, so I try to be sure I'm without comparable sins before I go casting stones. Louis Midgley's grammatically unreliable rancor seems bad to me, but more sad than bad.

[_Lemmie]

I don't believe they've physically attacked anyone. Writings can certainly have a negative influence if people believe the writings and change their own lives in bad ways, but from that point of view I think a suavely polite defense of Mormonism might have a more negative influence than all the snark in the world, to be honest.

And all kinds of things have negative influences. I try not to have them but I'm sure I do, too, so I try to be sure I'm without comparable sins before I go casting stones. Louis Midgley's grammatically unreliable rancor seems bad to me, but more sad than bad.

A negative influence doesn’t have to be physical. I’m not the historian here, so maybe there can be a better response regarding mopologetic activity, but I am aware that people have had their places of employment contacted resulting in disturbance, people have been verbally accosted in their work places, a boy was outed to his father resulting in a major family rift, etc. The written “hit pieces” surely have had a negative effect in people’s professional lives, and just the all around hatred for those who leave their church is causing many ongoing problems if people in your family are still LDS and hear mopologetic as well as official church output.

Maybe someone else can offer a more comprehensive list of the damage done.

[_Gadianton]

"...But I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with QAnon."

lol. He *is* associated with QAnon. He made a contract and took a big check from a representative of QAnon binding him not to reference QAnon as QAnon. I count Dr. Moore as one of my good friends and not just a dedicated member of the faculty, in in real life also, and I'm pretty sure I'm on the QAnon "list of six".

[_Dr Moore]

A tip of the hat to you too, Dean Robbers!

I guess we should be more gracious, no? Think about it. The chartering of a new chapter of QAnon is automatically bestowed when a person speculates among friends on the personal beliefs and intentions of others. Therefore, how can Doctor Scratch do anything but offer a friendly salute to his sister chapter, headed up by Midgley, Kiwi57, Peterson and Gee?

Protests from the gallery? Well, may the guiltless cast the first stone. Can any of those 4 honestly claim to have never speculated on another’s faith, beliefs, intentions, or integrity?

I don’t know if you’re on the list of 6, Gadianton (perhaps that clarification is warranted), but even if not, you may consider a welcome party to honor the anti-ex-LDS chapter of QAnon!

[_Lemmie]

...I guess we should be more gracious, no? Think about it. The chartering of a new chapter of QAnon is automatically bestowed when a person speculates among friends on the personal beliefs and intentions of others. Therefore, how can Doctor Scratch do anything but offer a friendly salute to his sister chapter, headed up by Midgley, Kiwi57, Peterson and Gee?

Lol. Karma.

[_Doctor Scratch]

"...But I certainly wouldn't want to be associated with QAnon."

lol. He *is* associated with QAnon. He made a contract and took a big check from a representative of QAnon binding him not to reference QAnon as QAnon. I count Dr. Moore as one of my good friends and not just a dedicated member of the faculty, in in real life also, and I'm pretty sure I'm on the QAnon "list of six".

Does Donald Trump accept donations from Antifa? Could this be seen as a kind of "mafia payment"? How does Dr. Peterson justify accepting money from such a group?

[_Gadianton]

Does Donald Trump accept donations from Antifa? Could this be seen as a kind of "mafia payment"? How does Dr. Peterson justify accepting money from such a group?

A profound question, Professor.

I think the most realistic answer is that he doesn't really see this board as a "hate site" or nearly as bad as he portrays it.

[_moksha]

I'm pretty sure I'm on the QAnon "list of six".

Let's call it the July Six:

Scratch
Gadianton
Everybody Wang Chung
Lemmie
Shades
Blair Hodges

I had to make a wild guess for those last two.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Huh. Apparently the QAnon thing has pretty strong roots among Republican types:

https://www.sltrib.com/news/2020/07/08/ ... hrke-utah/

"On election night, he [Burgess Owens, the newly selected GOP challenger to Utah's 4th District Congressman Ben McAdams] tweeted congratulations to Lauren Boebert, a supporter of the QAnon conspiracy theories who won a primary in Colorado and who shares Owens’ zeal for rooting out both socialists AND Marxists.

Shortly after winning the primary, President Donald Trump tweeted out his endorsement of the candidate."

It should be noted Burgess Owens had a total screed-appearance on Fox about Socialists and Democrats or.. whatever. I don't watch Fox.

Anyway.

Once again we see Dowsin' Dan jump balls deep into projection. It's psychologically fascinating, really.

- Doc