Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

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District attorneys are not supposed to be this influenced by the media and politics when choosing who they press charges against. Many people's faith in these institutions has been shaken due to this case as well it should be.
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District attorneys are not supposed to be this influenced by the media and politics when choosing who they press charges against. Many people's faith in these institutions has been shaken due to this case as well it should be.
Your comment is political BS, friend. They pressed charges because humans were shot, killed, and wounded. And I say this as someone leaning heavily in favor of acquittal on most of the (now fishtailing around) charges.
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Has the county DA charged anyone else that was arrested with regard to the riots? I know some were rolled up by the feds, but I want to know if the prosecutors are politically motivated or not.

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Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:30 pm
Has the county DA charged anyone else that was arrested with regard to the riots? I know some were rolled up by the feds, but I want to know if the prosecutors are politically motivated or not.

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Another point Doc is that Gaige Grosskreutz initially lied to police about how his gun landed on the ground. It didn't come out until Grosskreutz was on the stand under cross examination that he had drawn his gun to aim at Rittenhouse. Grosskreutz told police it fell out of his holster when Rittenouse shot him in the arm. It looks like Gaige was forced to admit this because his initial story he told to police didn't match with the video evidence.

Does anyone know if Grosskreutz had a legal firearm given Grosskreutz had a criminal record already?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:30 pm
Has the county DA charged anyone else that was arrested with regard to the riots? I know some were rolled up by the feds, but I want to know if the prosecutors are politically motivated or not.

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Beats the hell out of me. When I come up for air, I will try to find time to look into it. Maybe someone here knows the answer and will post it.
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Grosskreutz testified that he has one prior criminal offense. He also admitted during testimony that his concealed carry permit was expired, making it unlawful for him to carry concealed, but he had his gun stuck in the back waistband of his pants much of the night.
Oh, looks like found it. It took a good bit of digging though. Not something you're going to hear on CNN.

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Your comment is political B.S., friend. They pressed charges because humans were shot, killed, and wounded. And I say this as someone leaning heavily in favor of acquittal on most of the (now fishtailing around) charges.
This was a waste of public resources. The prosecutor knew everything about this case long before we did. I didn't see the officer who shot Ashley Babbit being charged and put on trial, or even have his name revealed to the public as was done to Darrin Wilson in the Michael Brown case. This case was brought against Kyle due to political pressure, not based on the actual fact pattern nor upon the merits of the case.
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Something you're not going to see from Brietbart or FOX Noise:

Kyle Rittenhouse testifies he knew Joseph Rosenbaum was unarmed but acted in self-defense during fatal shooting
(CNN)Kyle Rittenhouse testified Wednesday that he acted in self-defense when he fatally shot a man who had thrown a plastic bag at him and chased him last year in Kenosha, Wisconsin, in what is likely to be the pivotal testimony of his homicide trial.

"I didn't do anything wrong. I defended myself," he testified.

But in cross-examination, Rittenhouse said that he knew the man, Joseph Rosenbaum, was unarmed when he ran at the teenager. Rittenhouse said he pointed his rifle at Rosenbaum in an attempt to deter him, adding that he knew pointing a rifle at someone is dangerous.

"He was chasing me, I was alone, he threatened to kill me earlier that night. I didn't want to have to shoot him," Rittenhouse testified. "I pointed it at him because he kept running at me and I didn't want him to chase me."
So all your moaning about Grosskreutz pointing a gun at him doesn't negate the fact that KR was willing to kill people based on nothing more than assumptions. In this instance he said he shot and killed the plastic bag throwing guy because he thought he would steal his gun and start shooting other people. Because Kyle is all about protecting the rioters! What a joke.
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Perhaps Kyle didn't want to end up like this man did after unwittingly driving through a BLM riot. Anyone who drives near a BLM riot unarmed is crazy and that includes you K Graham.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:30 pm
Has the county DA charged anyone else that was arrested with regard to the riots? I know some were rolled up by the feds, but I want to know if the prosecutors are politically motivated or not.

- Doc
That's an easy one. All DAs really care about is percentage of prosecutions that lead to convictions. That includes pleas. They want to say they have a 85% or 90% conviction rate or whatever it is. So they primarily go after low hanging fruit. What's an easy conviction? It may become political when certain kinds of cases, or cases with media coverage pressure them into taking a case they would rather not take because of the risk of losing. I highly doubt these DAs want to bring this case and have their names in lights if they can't get a decent conviction.

If there were rioters arrested and they are open-and-shut cases, I have no doubt the DA's will take as many as they can get to pad their stats, but something tells me in such a chaotic situation saying who did what might not be easy.
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