Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:30 am
I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.

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Nobody is arguing that.

Rittenhouse pointed his gun at protestors and killed two "quickly and efficiently", so he is probably guilty.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:37 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:30 am
I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.

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Nobody is arguing that.

Rittenhouse pointed his gun at protestors and killed two "quickly and efficiently", so he is probably guilty.
-_-
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:37 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:30 am
I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.

- Doc
Nobody is arguing that.

Rittenhouse pointed his gun at protestors and killed two "quickly and efficiently", so he is probably guilty.
I can't even.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:38 am

-_-
and he probably doesn't have PTSD.
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I can't even.
I fixed it. And the report is still relevant.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:40 am
doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:37 am


Nobody is arguing that.

Rittenhouse pointed his gun at protestors and killed two "quickly and efficiently", so he is probably guilty.
I can't even.
I don't understand. So he didn't point his gun at the protestors?
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:12 am
The video, which was shown to the jury during prosecutors' closing statements on Monday, is key to their argument that Rittenhouse provoked the encounter with Rosenbaum by pointing his AR-15-style rifle near him, prompting him to chase Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse testified that he feared Rosenbaum would steal his gun and use it to shoot him.
https://www.npr.org/2021/11/17/10566505 ... on-day-two
So no?
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:41 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:40 am


I can't even.
I don't understand. So he didn't point his gun at the protestors?
When did he point his gun at the protestors?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:30 am
I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.

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It doesn’t. It might negate your ability to invoke a stand your ground law. Under those laws, you can only stand your ground if you have a right to be on that ground in the first place. If you’re trespassing, you don’t get to stand your ground. All stand your ground does is change the duty to retreat. Even if you can’t invoke stand your ground, you still have whatever self defense privilege exists under state law.
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