Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Chap,

KR’s father lives in Kenosha, and KR would visit him often. KR also worked there. He also has friends there, so his ties that bind aren’t unusual, despite him living 6 or so miles away.

Gunnar,

KR was actually charged, hence the trial.

- Doc

[Gadianton]

My biggest concern is that his acquittal will inspire numerous other would be vigilantes to think they can get away with what Kyle did or worse, with no undesirable consequences to themselves.

Absolutely. Not just the acquittal, but right-wing politicians preaching "go and do likewise". But can the faqs doctrine be a sustainable trend?

Once you allow people to walk freely on the street, openly carrying loaded firearms that can in less than a second be used to inflict sudden death or serious injury on people within a very wide radius, then in any conflictual and chaotic situation where death by such weapons is actually inflicted by one or more of the participants, the criminal law will face a next to impossible task in reaching a 'beyond reasonable doubt' decision as to who if anyone should bear criminal responsibility for such deaths.

Exactly my belief also. K lucked out this round overall. Future crowd participants will update their tactics based on everything from the way K engaged to the legal outcome. I don't have many predictions for how that will shape future altercations, it's kind of like training a neural net. But it won't be static situation where unhinged white kids go barrel fishing all the time.

[Binger]

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[Chap]

Kyle Rittenhouse’s father lives in Kenosha, and Kyle Rittenhouse would visit him often. Kyle Rittenhouse also worked there. He also has friends there, so his ties that bind aren’t unusual, despite him living 6 or so miles away.

Thanks for the clarification. But the length of his journey was not a major point of concern for me: It was the 'going out into disorderly crowds of excited people carrying a loaded weapon' that is the core of the issue for me. Teenage boys should not be allowed to get themselves into that situation in any reasonably well-governed society.

[Binger]

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[canpakes]

Inadequacies of our laws?. What’s scary is you actually believe the crap you’re typing.

In fact, wasn’t the point made that the law has some vagueness to it with regard to what and where folks under 18 are allowed to possess and/or carry, under certain circumstances?

Inadequacies in the law can work against you just as well as anyone else.

A 17 year old is being attacked by multiple rioters, one trying to kick him in the head, one trying to bash in his skull with a skateboard and another pointed a gun at him, and somehow you think he should be found guilty of murder?!?! That’s laughable . Two of the people he shot were felons and somehow the progressives are defending the wrong people again.

Interestingly, for all the perceived deficiencies of the folks that you’re taking about, the only person that night who went far enough to kill someone else was Rittenhouse.

I’m buying another AR15 today just to piss off the progressive beta boys on this forum!!

Thanks; my family manufactures firearms, and we are always happy about how some folks can be so easily manipulated into parting with their money due to their susceptibility to identity politics. : D

[K Graham]

Uh, virtually every Democrat I know believed he would be found not guilty. But that is just a testament to the inadequacies of our laws, which need to change. At the very least he should have been held accountable for brandishing a firearm in public but the law in that state provided a loophole for him. In other states he would likely have been found guilty.

Inadequacies of our laws?. What’s scary is you actually believe the crap you’re typing. A 17 year old is being attacked by multiple rioters, one trying to kick him in the head, one trying to bash in his skull with a skateboard and another pointed a gun at him, and somehow you think he should be found guilty of murder?!?! That’s laughable . Two of the people he shot were felons and somehow the progressives are defending the wrong people again. I’m buying another AR15 today just to piss off the progressive beta boys on this forum!!

You don't have the mental stamina nor the intellectual fortitude to wade through the entirety of this thread to accurately relay what's been said from anyone here. I've never once said he should be "convicted of murder" and I know of only a few people who actually believe that. But the fact is there were lesser charges he should have been held to but they were dropped. The irony is that if this had happened in states like North Carolina or Alabama, for example, where carrying guns at demonstrations is explicitly illegal, he would have been found guilty of murder because those laws deny the right to self defense if engaged in an illegal act. But he got lucky. He didn't review the state laws before traveling there, he just got lucky that that particular state provided a loophole for him to escape through because the law was designed to put black teens in jail, not over privileged white jerkoffs like Rittenhouse.

The overwhelming position from "the left" and one that I adhere to is that the laws are inconsistent from state to state and entirely inadequate because loser punks who couldn't make the team in high school, kids who are bullied, who are physically repulsive and considered social outcasts, people like Kyle who beat the hell out of girls for attention, etc these kinds of people now feel encouraged to go out and arm themselves with the understanding that all they have to do to gain the attention they've always craved, is to 1) be white 2) show up at a political demonstration armed and 3) if they kill people, that's just dandy, because they'll be treated as heroes by the morally depraved establishment known as Right Wing media. Cawthorne and Crowder have already used this incident to urge more and more people to arm themselves at political rallies! Of course we all know that if a black kid showed up at the Capitol with an assault weapon and ended up shooting everyone who bumped into him, you'd be calling for his public execution the same way you were calling for the head of the cop who shot Ashlie Babbitt.

As far as me being a "beta", this is like the umpteenth time you've said this, and I understand why. Real men who are confident in their virility don't go around pretending to be something they're not on the internet while making assumptions about everyone else according to their political views. I know you're like most idiots on the Right who think Democrat men = Starbucks employees who live on Avocado toast and Republican men = ex-Navy seals who would drink a gallon of gasoline just to piss on our campfires. But that's just a delusion you create to address the inadequacies you feel as a man. But listen, if you're really wanting to demonstrate your "alpha" status, then just go ahead and name the time and place. Hell, I'll even pay for your travel expenses. We can set up a friendly match on the mat and the first person to submit admits he's the beta. I'll even give you best two out of three. You should have no problem getting me to submit. I'm an old man. I'll be 52 this year, I'm only 6'3" and and a fat blob. Even worse, I voted for Biden!

[K Graham]

Apparently Rittenhouse's attorney had to kick out Tucker Carlson's film crew who were already there working on a documentary. Yes, of course they were. It was already predetermined from the start that this kid would be their new hero. He's already received job offers from GOP politicians. A kid who was caught on video sucker punching a defenseless teenage girl from behind.

I'm not going to watch the Carlson interview, but I'm betting he'll never be asked any serious questions like, "Given all that has transpired, would you do it again?"

[Gadianton]

Interestingly, for all the perceived deficiencies of the folks that you’re taking about, the only person that night who went far enough to kill someone else was Rittenhouse.

If he hadn't carried an assault rifle, nobody would have paid the least bit of attention to him. He wouldn't have had to defend himself against anything.

[K Graham]

I love educated folks who speak redneck.

Liberal Redneck - Rittenhouse Trial

I haven't laughed this hard in a while...