Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

[doubtingthomas]

the jury did not agree with Some Schmo

Well of course, I would have declared him not guilty because I am not entirely convinced he is guilty. However, it doesn't mean he wasn't guilty. I am sure the bandwagon effect is a big problem during jury deliberations.

[Tinfoilhat]

Dude!! I don’t think he was asking you to perform some kind of sexual favor for him.

Yes he was. That’s the way I read! He definitely wanted

Tim!!!! Stop that man, leave K Graham alone. He's very sensitive. Most beta males are.

[canpakes]

I think that it is reasonable to assume that if Rosenbaum had made it to Kyle he was going to cause him great bodily harm. Kyle doesn't even need to believe Rosenbaum is going to kill him, only cause him great bodily harm.

I agree. As could jumpkick guy have assumed the same when Rittenhouse aimed the AR at him. As could anyone around Rittenhouse when seeing him wheeling around with an AR in his hand. This is the problem.

I think any other reasonable person would come to the same conclusion. It's pretty clear that Kyle's use of his firearm is well justified under Wisconsin self defense law. It isn't the responsibility of Kyle to 'play fair' and engage Rosenbaum in fisticuffs.

It isn’t his responsibility. But, it’s an option.

It’s also not his responsibility to have assumed, for a second time after already having shot someone under dubious rationale, that his only option in difficult situations is to shoot to kill anyone who gets close enough.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Anyone else surprised Atlantic “portapotty” Mike is a total pussy? No? Me, neither.

He has the chance to put a beta male down, and instead of manning up and showing his fellow tough guy buddies on the forum how Conservatives are real men who show Libs what’s up when they “F” around, he posts emojis instead.

So. This now makes three Conservative posters on this forum or the last version of it, who talked mad crap, but when given the opportunity to take one of us Liberal pussies down a notch or two, showed their true colors. That’s:

Wll Schryver
Texas “Rusty” Mormon
Atlantic Mike (and his pussy sock puppets).



- Doc

[doubtingthomas]

Look K Graham! I've told you before, I like vaginas

We don't have to know your porn preferences.

[Kukulkan]

I think that it is reasonable to assume that if Rosenbaum had made it to Kyle he was going to cause him great bodily harm. Kyle doesn't even need to believe Rosenbaum is going to kill him, only cause him great bodily harm.

I agree. As could jumpkick guy have assumed the same when Rittenhouse aimed the AR at him. As could anyone around Rittenhouse when seeing him wheeling around with an AR in his hand. This is the problem.

I think any other reasonable person would come to the same conclusion. It's pretty clear that Kyle's use of his firearm is well justified under Wisconsin self defense law. It isn't the responsibility of Kyle to 'play fair' and engage Rosenbaum in fisticuffs.

It isn’t his responsibility. But, it’s an option.

It’s also not his responsibility to have assumed, for a second time after already having shot someone under dubious rationale, that his only option in difficult situations is to shoot to kill anyone who gets close enough.

I don't think it's reasonable to assume someone running down the street open carrying a rifle is an active shooter. Especially considering they didn't actually witness Kyle shoot anyone, they were going off of what the crowd was saying. Even more so that Kyle wasn't strafing the crowd with his rifle or issuing verbal threats such as "I'm going to shoot you." What was reasonable was Kyle assuming that jump kick man, Huber, and Grosskreutz were going to cause him great bodily harm or death considering they were kicking him, hitting him with a skateboard, and aiming a gun at him.

[Binger]

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[canpakes]

With that said, it was perfectly legal for him to take a firearm to a progressive riot so he could protect himself.

I see. Fluffy ‘alpha male’ needs to tote an AR around to protect himself from the supposed ‘beta males’ with skateboards and plastic bags.

You might have your assignments reversed. ; )

[Gadianton]

I think Shades wants to point out that Some is blaming the victim. For Shades, Rittenhouse was a victim.

That's obvious, but it's a bad analogy. How about strutting through a bad neighborhood with a 120k rolex? The rolex provoked the attacked, he's still the victim.

An AR-15 can substitute for the rolex in some scenarios, but there are plenty of scenarios where it can't. In addition to the possibility that K is attacked in spite of the AR-15, to steal the AR-15 or the statement it makes angers the attacker, there is also the possibility that K is attacked because he poses a threat to the lives of people around him. That's never the case with a miniskirt or a rolex.

[doubtingthomas]

As for the bandwagon effect, I think that applied more to our trial by media than to the jury in the courtroom.

The bandwagon effect can happen in a courtroom as well. All you need is a charismatic juror.