Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

[Tinfoilhat]

I thought this place was my escape from Twitter.

I thought this place was my escape from Church.

This forum isn't a church dumb dumb!! It's a cult!! A progressive cult that is made up of people who think they're smarter than everyone else. I'm starting to see why you lost the Rittenhouse case. You should've been a plumber because you're a terrible lawyer.

[doubtingthomas]

hit them in the head with a skateboard

That is not true. Fake news right there.

Would attempting to kick someone in the head

He was 39 at the time, not 30. Muscle strength declines after 30. And your words are very misleading.

The man known as "jump kick man" during the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse is 39-year-old Maurice Freeland of Wisconsin, defense attorneys revealed to Fox News Thursday. A video played at trial appears to show Freeland running at Rittenhouse and kicking him shortly after the teenager shot and killed Joseph Rosenbaum.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenh ... n-revealed

or point a gun at them count?

I need evidence showing that Joseph Rosenbaum was trying to seriously hurt Rittenhouse.

[Binger]

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[canpakes]

There are actually two questions to consider.

If folks chase after someone who just shot another, arguably in an attempt to disarm him, are they aggressors?

Does being labeled an aggressor mean that the person so labeled intends to kill anyone?

Hey canpakes,

I want to be clear that this line of argument is poor. Once the events turned into a conflict, the reality of the law is Rittenhouse was justified in his actions as affirmed by a jury of his peers.

That’s OK, honor, and understood. I’m not trying to construct any sort of legal argument along these lines. I’m playing devil’s advocate with possible crowd dynamics and consequences and with regard to the faulty rationale and thin thinking offered up in some arguments for open carry … especially in situations like this.

Upstream, I’ve already stated that Rittenhouse was reasonable in assuming that his life was in danger and that I would never vote to convict him on intentional homicide charges.

The issue is that the conflict itself was a degrading of the social order, both by rioters engaging in criminal activity and by vigilantes inserting firearms into the situation.

Our justice system was dealing narrowly with the case as it was. Legislation is almost certainly going to attempt to react to this in potentially damaging ways from both the left and right due to being reactionary. Yeah, we need to rethink how the law should be evolved to deal with the current fraying of society. But that needs to be value based. For good or ill, Rittenhouse has rights that needed protecting for the good of society, too.

Highlight is mine, especially with regard to reactionary.

[Binger]

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[doubtingthomas]

Kyle was 100% correct to defend himself against the men that attacked him.

Show me the evidence that Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber were trying to seriously hurt Rittenhouse.

Rosenbaum specifically targeted single mothers so he could anally rape their children.

Jesus Christ! I understand Rosebaum committed horrendous crimes, but how is that relevant in a murder trial? And how did Rittenhouse know that?

And your god impregnated 13 year old Mary. God is a child molester.

[Gadianton]

https://docs.legis.wisconsin.gov/statut ... /iii/48/1m

939.48  Self-defense and defense of others.

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(4)A person is privileged to defend a 3rd person from real or apparent unlawful interference by another under the same conditions and by the same means as those under and by which the person is privileged to defend himself or herself from real or apparent unlawful interference, provided that the person reasonably believes that the facts are such that the 3rd person would be privileged to act in self-defense and that the person's intervention is necessary for the protection of the 3rd person.

So really what it comes down to is if at any time during the altercation subsequent to Ro, even if K had originally been trotting off, somebody in the crowd who was unaware that K was retreating beheld K putting the lives of others in danger by firing his gun and so pulls and fires back.

[doubtingthomas]

Any evidence that Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber were trying to seriously hurt Rittenhouse?

[Binger]

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[K Graham]

Are you ready to take me up on my offer Mike?

Look K Graham! I've told you before, I like vaginas and I'm not going to start playing for the other team if you know what I mean. So please stop asking me to perform sexual favors. Try Some Schmo, you'll probably have better luck.

Just as I thought. A beta move if there ever was one.